Skip to comments.Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.
But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.
And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.
And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.
That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.
Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.
Yam has been a rogue for years. I guess Yam got his final brown sugaring, cinnamoning, marshmallowing, buttering, cashewing, and baking.
It would be nice if you guys showed half the disgust you show for Romney to Obama.
***And it would be nice if you guys stopped sowing discord among conservatives on a conservative website, trying to separate them from their conservative beliefs to vote for a librul. We all agree that your time would be better spent converting 0bots into mittbots. The fact that you choose to continue spreading discord among conservatives is proof that you aint conservative. Free Republic is a conservative website, not a republican website.
“...being responsible for everything Obama will do in his second term?”
“Nonsense. Romney will be bound by an increased conservative majority in the Congress. Obama will know no such bounds.”
You have it completely backward. A conservative GOP congress will hold Obama in check, but will kowtow to a liberal Romney out of party loyalty.
That is reality. At least closser to it than what you have written.
Or perhaps he could be telling the truth.
I don’t think he is lieing. Why do you?
I committed this whole election business to the will of God and cast it on Him. I know that God does allow less than stellar men to rule at times for His own reasons. - So, I must decide once and for all to wait on the Lord, and decide do I trust Him or don’t I. - I’ve prayed early on, “God help us! You see what kind of man is exalted to a position of almost dictatorship in this country; this is not right. Most of all, Thy will be done!” - Am praying about Romney/Ryan, don’t know yet what sort of a stink Hussein and minions will stir up during the next couple of months. Scripture does say in the Psalms that the “wicked walk on every side when evil men are exalted”.
Here means the context of the immediate discussion at hand, and you know it. Not that someone with an FR login hasn’t said so (and promptly gotten zotted therefor).
“Well I’m sorry for what your Jewish father went through..my father made difficult choices as well...but he did not survive. My background is religious stew...Catholic mother, Protestant father, Mormon in-laws and now I am studying JUDAISM. I could care less about Romney’s religion.
That said...voting for Romney is not going to save this nation...anyone who believes that to be true is sadly mistaken. G-d bless.”
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God bless you,
Jim, as a born-again Christian, who has studied the major doctrines of the Bible extensively and has read it from cover-to-cover seven times, I agree that Mormonism is false teaching by a false prophet, however, it isn’t his Mormonism that Romney is or will be touting, it’s his politics. And the politics that Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are touting is not anti-American, anti-religious, anti-freedom, anti-business, racism. Yet, this is Barack Obama’s politics and those policies are destroying our country and destroying our freedoms. And yes, I would rather have a RINO Mormon in the White House, than a Marxist/Socialist/Communist/Muslim, illegal alien, thug in the White House.
Jim, should everyone with a car, park it or sell it, because the oil used to run them, enriches entire nations of America-hating, Allah worshiping, terrorists? Where does it end? If we avoid everything and everyone that is contrary to the scriptures, we would have to, as the Apostle Paul said, “Go out of the world.” Remember, Jesus said to let the wheat and the tares grow together... He will do the separating and the judging, when He comes.
No you are wrong.
Obama is given all sorts of extras in his job due to his race.
Frankly he was elected mostly for that reason.
He is most certainly not playing by the same rules.
So when has Romney ever "socked" it to Barack?
Yes, but you are asking the wheat to help plant more tares.
Sorry this crap is still going on, Mr. Robinson. You have been clear and consistent as far as I can see.
You don’t support Mittens but you tolerate those who do as long as they don’t harass those who do not. You have been clear about why you don’t support Mittens...gun control, abortion, homosex social and legal dominance, socialized medicine, support of bankster bailouts (fascism, debt) and more. These are the opposite of everything conservatives stand for both economically and socially. Obama, too, is everything we beleive in turned up-side-down.
Mormonism is discussed under the rules of the religious moderator who was consistent in not permitting personal attacks- only discussion of the theology. I have not seen violations of that go unaddressed. Mormonism has a lot in the closet that comes out on here and that is not “hate.” It is not bigotry, either, because bigotry implies ignorance of the topic/group and the people discussing Moronism are not ignorant of the topic they are discussing and they support their statements with facts. Rinos demanded no one mention Mitt’s Mormonism during the election; trying to pull another rule of political correctness to protect a dark place or a secret. You made clear that you were not obeying this nonsense. A president’s faith does matter in his character. In Mitt case, it adds up to fascism in practice.
Anyway, I am sorry this election has brought about so much turmoil on Free Republic. Hope it settles down! We’re here, we’re not queer, get used to it! :)
A Tea Party Conservative? How so? Many here have just confirmed he is a RINO. The fact that he would even breath the same air as Romney makes him a RINO! /Sarc/
I mean no disrespect to you or your beliefs, but I don’t discuss religion on FR.
Excellent post, Sara.
If you don’t fit, neither do I. I’m not Mormon. I’m lifelong Lutheran. But I spent 4 years in Salt Lake City dealing with Mormon influence and know this. Their religion rules most aspects of their lives, it’s antithetical to my beliefs. But that should not be an issue when it comes to the national stage. It shouldn’t for Lutherans, Catholics, Jews. Our nation, the Constitution we hold dear, allows freedom of religion. If we on FR don’t acknowledge that same tenet here, we don’t deserve to exist. It’s part of the essence of the Constitution we claim to honor.
I’ve had my problems with Mormonism, but that has to be put behind me when it comes to this candidate and his religion. We’re at the point where in the next few months we will continue to be a union or we will soon lose our freedom. Anyone holding opposition to Mormonism over national sovereignty is wrong. Flat our wrong, if that opposition is more important than our vote in November.
We have a choice. We’d best think long and hard about what our decision will be. This is NOT the 2008 election redux.
Your disjointed “logic” is oddly captivating.
As for your last comment, I am not ashamed of anything I have written. I simply stated my view based on my history while reiterating my belief that EVERYONE has their own choice to make and should do so according to his/her conscience.
When did I EVER equate Mormonism with Anti-Semetism? In my opinion, you are radically challenged intellectually, and likely dangerous.
You really believe that, with Boehner, Cantor, and McConnell running the show on the Hill?
Good enough.Just could’nt figure out why.Take care
I presume that you are referring to their record in this regard since the election of 2010? What makes you think that this will get better in a second term? Hint: it won't.
No offense, how can born again Christians be so holy?
“Through the blood of Christ.
And holy means to be separated unto Godonly one way, through Christ.”
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How can you proclaim “born agains” to be holy when you all
approve of the use Contraception, ???, an intrinsic evil.
Oh yeah, “Jesus’ atonement, He did it all on the Cross”, you’re free to commit grave sin.
You ran from my question on Contraception.
I see a lot of hate and hateful language on here, and it isn't coming from just one side.
I have been on this site and loved it for many many years. Can't even begin to count the number of hours I have spent on here.
I get the sad feeling I am watching it die before my very eyes though.
That WAS from “the immediate discussion at hand”.
The fact that the National SOCIALISTS came to power on the support of people willing to throw reason to the wind in order to get out of their then current circumstance seems lost on many on FR as of late.
But then again, these are people who think that your vote for a person does not mean that you support them/their policies.
In short, people are once again throwing reason to the wind and ‘hoping’ for ‘change’. Four years ago, such people were called idiots by the very people who now embrace their ideals. How freaking mindless is that? Abandoning your very reason out of fear never results in a positive outcome.
Clinton is the only elected two term Democrat since FDR and he NEVER received a majority vote. I intend to keep his legacy intact by voting against Obama and for some R&R.
His own social conservative creds are nigh impeccable. I am a fightin’ fundie not a Roman Catholic, but I concur with the Roman Catholic view of social conservatism in 95+% of cases, the differences mainly being where the theology has not well developed in evangelical circles.
Will the ever waffling Romney finally put his breakfast pastry to rest on social conservatism issues, with Ryan on the team? Excellent question. I sincerely hope he will. I can’t predict one way or the other.
God bless you, Jim. If we had even a half-dozen in DC with your spine, our country would bein a lot better shape.
May you remain unbowed by the voices of politicall correctness - even those masquerading as “conservatives.”
“Obama is given all sorts of extras in his job due to his race.
Frankly he was elected mostly for that reason.
He is most certainly not playing by the same rules.”
Not to mention czars, EO’s, and implementing his statist/racist desires through the DOJ, DHS, etc. There are countless ways for him to screw the country that Congress can’t do jack about.
Respectfully disagree with you.
This ticket is better than Obama/Romney by a landslide. Ryan’s one of us, I think.
You’re right that it ought to be reversed, but it isn’t.
Romney picking him means they know damn well they can’t win without conservatives behind him, and they know Romney doesn’t have them.
It doesn’t mean Romney isn’t going way left after elected, like most other Republicans in DC, but this is worth my vote.
Evangelical theology is marked by a return to the bible, which does not go as far as developed Catholic theology on the question. The Catholic theology sounds admirable, but from an evangelical point of view it isn’t biblical; it is at best a noble conjecture on a matter that the bible is silent about.
Catholics may disagree with evangelicals but they ought to understand why.
Well stated, Southnsoul.
I’m guessing that you think that things will be much better with Obama in his second term with no requirement to stand for reelection. Let me know how that works out for you.
And the evidenceat Myth’s SC picks would be any better than Obama’s is?
Great post. Thank you. Poor Ryan, I believe, will try as he is a good man, but the deed is done so long as Romney is anywhere near a Republican ticket. Hope he leaves the office in four, if not the ticket, for poor Ryan. Given what and who he has to work with, poor Ryan has at least made more sober suggestions to address spending, but got laughed out off the stage for all his extensive effort.
And, I understand YOUR point!! The only problem is that I am weary of having to choose from the lesser of the two evils.
Why is it that what was once the most powerful nation on earth is capable of only having a choice between swampwater and raw sewage for its leader?? After 230+ years as a sovereign nation, we can't do ANY better than either Obama/Biden or Romney/Ryan!??
This is a sad commentary on the road to oblivion that we have travelled as a nation. Rather than a choice betwen the lesser of two evils, wouldn't it be refreshing and worth all the gnashing of teeth or water fountain discussions if our choice were between two extremely qualified, highly motivated (and motivating!) candidates?? Instead, we have a choice betwen the dregs remaining on the bottom of the barrel.
Please see my post #522. It was meant for you as well as SE Mom, and I thought I’d included you in the “To:” section. I hadn’t. I apologize for the error.
That because satan's pawn was involved. I will never vote for EVIL for America or taint myself because I put my stamp of approval on all his wicked deeds. NEVER!
I will choose Mitt because I dont want our country to go down the same road a Greece.
Greece is not a nation under God! So you obviously do want to go down the SAME road as them!
"And Jesus said unto them, Why are you fearful, O you of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm". Matt 8:26
Well, it just sucks to be us. It will suck even more if Obama wins a second term.
Do you people only read what you want to read or do you not have the ability to comprehend?
I said Romney was not my first choice. I realize the problems involved with him. I get it!
I simply said that for ME......for MY REASONING.....for where I AM at this point in time, I cannot separate the lessons from my family from my decisions. I thought this was a “FREE REPUBLIC”.....not just a place where you could only speak your mind when other people agreed!
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