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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: jamese777
You are in effect saying that Chief Justice John Roberts is not a patriot because he swore in Barack Obama as president.

Don't tell me what I'm saying "in effect". I haven't spoken a word about my thoughts on Justice John Roberts.

I'm not inside John Roberts' head, so I can't know what internal struggles he may have gone through in administering the oath of office to Obama.

Everything I know about the man says that he is honorable, and an American patriot. But, he is just a man. No doubt, he has the same failings and weaknesses we all do. We can't know what forces, real or imagined, may have compelled him to rotely follow ceremony and procedure in that circumstance.

Perhaps our Justices are not as informed about current events as we would hope them to be. Perhaps they are more informed than we are, but are pawns in a game that is much too large for them to win from their present station (hard as that is to believe). We honestly can't know their minds on this, until they open up to us, if indeed they ever do.

I will say this, though. In the end, your honor and your personal integrity are more important than your immediate life. We are in the condition we are in today because of the compounding of cowardice, both small and large, for many decades. None of us have clean hands, but most especially those we've entrusted with protecting our freedoms and liberties.

I would have preferred for Justice Roberts to have fully confronted the extraordinary circumstances in front of him, and make the courageous choice, but he chose otherwise. Why, I do not know.

8,461 posted on 08/09/2009 8:12:59 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Technical Editor

While I think we could honestly debate the English language of that era the Framers refereed the “Law of Nations” in many of their writings. It seems clear that the reference in the Constitution is that of the one and only book of the Law of Nations.


8,462 posted on 08/09/2009 8:13:57 PM PDT by GregNH
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To: Kevmo

IIRC Polarik made it clear he was expressing an OPINION based upon the scrap of a ColB that was presented...with a date stamp seven years later than the Freeper maintained it was received from Hawaii.

A scan of a CoLB was later shown.


8,463 posted on 08/09/2009 8:26:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: GregNH

The phrase itself was common before it was the title of Vattel’s treatise. It would be interesting to get a constitutional scholar’s take on it. I believe that there were conventions for writing titles of books, plays, poems, and so on, and I believe if they intended to reference a specific text, they would have made that very clear. They could have also used words.

I don’t believe the Constitution acknowledges any of the sources of its content, so I do not believe the Framers would have named a specific book about international law and not the many other prominent influences on their thinking. Why this one? I could probably find out if I spent the time on it, but it’s not on my “open question” list; in fact, I am 100% certain it’s not the book that is named but the concept of the law of nations, which was a term well known to them that represented a body of international law. I’d bet on it, actually, because I’m that sure.


8,464 posted on 08/09/2009 9:04:52 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: STARWISE; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Thanks STARWISE.


8,465 posted on 08/09/2009 10:42:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: hoosiermama

then there’s this Greg Szymanski classic:

Testimony of Sister Charlotte

This very brave ex Nun tells of the evil secret inner workings and evil mind control system of the Vatican over their Nuns in virtual prisions. Listen to Sister Charlotte tell details that you will never learn anywhere else. Sister Charlotte disappeared shortly after this public testimony was given, it appears to have been made in Jamaica in the Carribean. Exact time it was made is unavailable as of yet.

For twenty-two years, “Sister Charlotte” (she never revealed her true name in public) was a member of a Roman Catholic convent of nuns. From a very young age, she thought that this would be the best way to redeem her family from the torments of “purgatory”. She graphically describes many of the terrible tortures and suffering she endured in the dungeons of her convent and how God mercifully rescued her from this life. Two years after publically revealing her experiences, she disappeared. I would recommend that children not listen to this.

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/greg/?p=298

(Intermission over, back to work!)


8,466 posted on 08/09/2009 10:51:56 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: JerseyDvl

Bookmark


8,467 posted on 08/09/2009 10:57:43 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Since they call Bush, "Dubya" then I must insist on calling Barry, "Hussein" *2009=1984 on steroids*)
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To: Peter Libra

Is there a pod-cast for Bill Cunningham ???


8,468 posted on 08/10/2009 6:00:01 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: David
This picture belongs on this thread. WND confirms Anna Obama Seattle address from Polk Directory, 1961-1961. Anna Obama Seattle address
8,469 posted on 08/10/2009 6:00:52 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
And this belongs here too:

Fifth passport peeker charged
By: Freeman Klopott Examiner Staff Writer

August 10, 2009
A former State Department employee has become the fifth person charged witih illegally accessing the confidential passport information of elected officials and celebrities.

Karal Busch has been charged with the unauthorized access of passport files related to "various celebrities and their families, actors, professional athletes, musicians, models and other individuals identified in the press," court documents filed in the District's federal court said. No attorney information for Busch was listed in court records.

Among the "individuals identified in the press" were then presidential candidates John McCain, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. The Justice Department launched an investigation into the passport office in spring 2008, after allegations surfaced that the passport files of nearly 130 celebrities had been breached.

The State Department inspector general later blasted the department for failing to build proper protection into the system. An inspector general report found "many control weaknesses -- including a general lack of policies, procedures, guidance, and training -- related to the prevention and detection of unauthorized access to passport and applicant information."

The report suggested the department follow privacy procedures already used by the Social Security Administration and the Internal Revenue Service. Busch is accused of peeking at passport applications, which according to the Department of Justice contain the applicant's full name, and date and place of birth.

The applications also list telephone numbers, parent information, spouse's name, and emergency contact information. Court records do not indicate when Busch is expected to enter a plea. Last month, William Celey, 27, pleaded guilty to the same charge. Celey was a contract employee and worked as a file assistant from August 2003 and July 2004. While Celey is still awaiting sentencing, which is scheduled for October, three others have already received probation, fines and community service.

Lawrence Yontz, a former foreign service officer and intelligence analyst, illegally accessed nearly 200 passport files. Yontz was sentenced to one year probation and 50 hours of community service. Dwayne F. Cross, a former administrative assistant, illegally accessed more than 150 files, and was sentenced to one year probation and 100 hours of community service. Gerald Lueders, a former foreign service officer, illegally accessed 50 files and was sentenced to one year probation and ordered to pay a $5,000 fine. fklopott@washingtonexaminer.com

8,470 posted on 08/10/2009 6:09:07 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

These were not kids accessing these files. And look at the sentences! None of them are doing jail time and only one, rather modest, fine in the lot.

Can you say “slap on the wrist”?


8,471 posted on 08/10/2009 6:11:51 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rxsid

BTT


8,472 posted on 08/10/2009 6:32:36 AM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Key witness in passport fraud case fatally shot
8,473 posted on 08/10/2009 6:35:27 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Let's see if this link works to the Washington examiner story about the 5th witness:

Fifth passport peeker charged

8,474 posted on 08/10/2009 6:40:02 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Tennessee Nana
Is there a pod-cast for Bill Cunningham ???

I was not too familiar with the actual workings of that term. I just went back to www.premier radio.com

What I got was a previous show with Steve Forbes as guest. I think this is a pod cast. The only thing I don't know is how to get the last show or a date on the one listened to. Next week, Bill gets to host Joseph Farrah of WND.

On the guest appearance of Phillip J. Berg, he merely went over what we have observed again and again on this thread. Bill playing devils advocate and asking why Hillary, Bill and Pubbie bigwigs, did not jump in and wipe out Barack with the elegibility clause.

The battle goes on.

8,475 posted on 08/10/2009 8:11:38 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Peter Libra
Should read.

www.premiere radio .com

This for the Cunningham radio show.

8,476 posted on 08/10/2009 8:19:19 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Windflier

A nice attempt at spin. I’ll give you a B minus.
Back here in the real world we know that the Chief Justice administered the Oath of Office twice. John Roberts had plenty of time to consider the implications in between the times that he administered the oath publically and then in the smaller, private ceremony.
One of the cases from Orly Taitz (Lightfoot v Bowen) that challenged Obama’s eligibility was sent to Justice Roberts on December 29, 2008 on a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari (agreement to hear the case before the full court). Roberts (and the Supreme Court) rejected granting the Petition on January 26, 2009. The Chief Justice would have been very familiar with the facts of the case submitted by Orly Taitz before he denied the Petition.
http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2009/01/interview-orly-taitz-chief-justice.html


8,477 posted on 08/10/2009 10:16:21 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: All
In case you missed this, don't know if has been discussed earlier. ********************************************************** The Law of Nations is quoted in the Constitution August 8th, 2009 This was posted on Citizen Wells and and Natural Born Citizen. You Article II s.1′er guys are just going to love this………THE CONSTITUTION DOES INDEED DEFINE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN AS BORN OF 2 US CITIZEN PARENTS AND ‘IN COUNTRY’, further it defines allegiance by patrilineage!!! Goss wrote: The Constitution and de Vattel’s Law of Nations has the answer to any questions regarding citizenship abroad and any laws crossing national boundaries: EXCERPT 1. U.S. Constitution, Article II, §1: No Person except a natural born Citizen, OR a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; EXCERPT 2: de Vattel’s Law of Nations circa 1758 Book 1, Chapter XIX, § 212: The natives, or NATURAL-BORN CITIZENS, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens…The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. Finally, the main item in the Constitution that ties both together: EXCERPT 3: U.S. Constitution, Article I, §8: The Congress shall have Power…To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations Yes, Law of Nations is CAPITALIZED, meaning our framers were citing a proper name. There was only one Law of Nations in 1787 officially declared. And yes, Congress has the power to create and enforce ANY LAW mentioned in the Law of Nations written by Emmerich de Vattel! It was sitting right under our noses the entire time. http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm ———— US Citizen is defined by the 14th amendment. Natural Born Citizen is defined by The Law Of Nations, which is cited in the Constitution as its very basis Not only does the Law of Nations state that a natural born citizen is born in country of two citizen parents, it ALSO says that the patrilineage determines allegiance, meaning Barack’s father who was British/Kenyan determined Obama’s citizenship. “In God We Trust” (and ONLY God!) ********************************************************** So............stick that in the pot and stir it. Saw this on Orlys' site, not accessible thru , but is thru Internet Explorer. Posted in Uncategorized | 2 Comments »
8,478 posted on 08/10/2009 10:18:34 AM PDT by Poparhoid
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To: jamese777

James, you’re speculating, just as we all are.

If the fact that Chief Justice John Roberts administered the oath of office to Zero is all the proof you need that he’s eligible to hold the office of President, then so be it.

It’s not nearly enough proof for millions of your fellow Americans.

You guys on the anti-birther side are going to have to realize at some point that you haven’t convinced the rest of us with your legal arguments.

Nothing except the release of Obama’s personal documents and records will end this.

If you want to argue against Obama coming clean with the American public, then make that argument. You’ll be forever cast as a left-wing tool if you do, but that’s your last option.

We won’t believe this man is eligible until he provides us with solid proof of that eligibility.

If you really want to help, join us in demanding that he release his documents.


8,479 posted on 08/10/2009 10:31:45 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

James, you’re speculating, just as we all are.

If the fact that Chief Justice John Roberts administered the oath of office to Zero is all the proof you need that he’s eligible to hold the office of President, then so be it.

It’s not nearly enough proof for millions of your fellow Americans.

You guys on the anti-birther side are going to have to realize at some point that you haven’t convinced the rest of us with your legal arguments.

Nothing except the release of Obama’s personal documents and records will end this.

If you want to argue against Obama coming clean with the American public, then make that argument. You’ll be forever cast as a left-wing tool if you do, but that’s your last option.

We won’t believe this man is eligible until he provides us with solid proof of that eligibility.

If you really want to help, join us in demanding that he release his documents.


My efforts are aimed at putting political pressure on the Attorney General of the State of Hawaii, Mark Bennett (a Republican) to convene a Grand Jury investigation for forgery and fraud and seeking a subpoena for Obama’s original, vault copy, long form birth documents which is in accordance with the laws of the state of Hawaii. I believe that is the best way to resolve these issues.
Obama is under no obligation to release any documents to his political opponents. I suspect that the loyal opposition to Obama is being set up by his political operatives to look foolish. I think that at some point when it is politically expedient and beneficial to Obama, there will be a “document dump” of a huge amount of information that will make Obama look good and his opposition look vindicative and paranoid. I refuse to play that game.

Obama’s opposition has every right to organize to defeat him for reelection on the basis of his failure to satisfy their demands for full disclosure.

The only constitutional requirements for eligibility to be president are birth within the United States, being age 35 or above and having 14 years residence in the United States. PERIOD.


8,480 posted on 08/10/2009 11:21:35 AM PDT by jamese777
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