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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: afraidfortherepublic

Lost my last point:

4. They are afraid of the backlash that could result from exposing Obama as a fraud.

This is why we need some kind of law, or Constitutional Amendment to clarify and secure the NBC clause. It might have to be done at the State level, which has been suggested by FRthinkers here, far smarter than I. Because, it could be gradual. Not all of the states would have to sign on to the clarification, or procedure. Just a few states could rule the others because if (let’s just say) Texas. South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, and Nebraska would not allow a candidate who had not provided proper ID onto the ballot, that candidate surely could not get enough electoral votes from the remaining states to win.


8,421 posted on 08/09/2009 3:08:10 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

afraidfortherepublic,

I agree with you 100% on this. You got my meaning exactly right. It boils down to the same reason they didn’t do anything last summer. I am not so sure that I want to blame them, either. It’s easy for me to say I’d do it myself if I had the power, but my knowledge of what the situation really is so limited as to render me incapable of any meaningful conclusion. We are simply not privy to much of the reality facing our country. I pray to God that the people’s respresentatives are as aware as we are and that they are doing what they CAN to protect us from Obama.


8,422 posted on 08/09/2009 3:09:37 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Technical Editor

That should be: “ ... what the situation really is is so limited ...”


8,423 posted on 08/09/2009 3:11:33 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Technical Editor

” a citizen at birth (in other words, a NBC).”

IN OTHER WORDS, yes OTHER WORDS with a DIFFERENT MEANING.


8,424 posted on 08/09/2009 3:23:12 PM PDT by faucetman
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To: Technical Editor

I sometimes wonder, given their mimicking of Obama’s allegations that his opponents are “lying” all the time, if those who think the parents of a president must be at least a naturalized U.S. citizen are, in fact, representatives of Obama and his minions. After all, they use his tactics of calling their opponents liars, and I note with interest that neither you nor I use Obama’s tactics. I am not aware of anyone else agreeing with me other than you, by the way.

I’d be interested in hearing more about the Hawaii AG idea anytime you hear anything. There are probably political issues that are operating to prevent the sensible thing from happening, though, which is discouraging.


My guess is that there is more political “hay” to be mowed out of not disclosing the vault copy birth certificate than there is from revealing it.
My guess is based on the statement issued by the Director of the Hawaii Health Department. She is a political appointee of the current Republican Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle. I quote her: “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”


8,425 posted on 08/09/2009 3:53:54 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Technical Editor

“We start from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive.”

I don’t read here that there are ONLY two. He is comparing two of them, then later refers to the third. Which is still a native born citizen with additional requirements.


8,426 posted on 08/09/2009 4:22:57 PM PDT by faucetman
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To: Windflier
The normal equilibrium between left and right - government and the people, is teetering dangerously out of balance. It is already falling out of station, and will soon hit more dangerous lows.

Brings to mind imagery of the famous Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse (1940).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw

8,427 posted on 08/09/2009 4:32:28 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Red Steel

Stop with the Senate resolution already. I see your point but it is a flawed resolution that has no force of law so why use it. Plus as I have pointed out before the senate is WRONG. McCain was not born on a military base (and a military base is NOT U.S. soil anyway) He was born in Colon PANAMA which was EXEMPTED from U.S. jurisdiction and NOT legally part of the Canal Zone. (which was NOT U.S. SOIL anyway)McCain is as ineligible to be president as Obama is. Maybe worse, because we HAVE seen McCain’s long form birth certificate.


8,428 posted on 08/09/2009 4:32:52 PM PDT by faucetman
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To: Windflier; LucyT
This is a weird little thing I ran across.

San Francisco Chronicle / sfgate.com
SFGate Politics Blog: A Polish Perspective
Posted By: Matthew B. Stannard | August 06 2009 at 07:30 PM
Listed Under: Global Spin

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=45071

Check out paragraph 11, the interviewee's response to question 3.

Little Freudian slip there, from an international perspective?

8,429 posted on 08/09/2009 4:41:39 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: faucetman

I only brought it up to make a point with Mr. Dem there to the fallacy of his argument. I used the assumption; I didn’t say I agreed with it.


8,430 posted on 08/09/2009 5:11:18 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: STARWISE

You can clearly see the spin machines at
play here with this WH. The Dems are
historically involved in grand conspiracies
.. our side is typically not.
...................
http://talkingpoints4radio.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/wanta.pdf


8,431 posted on 08/09/2009 5:26:36 PM PDT by freedommom
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To: STARWISE

You can clearly see the spin machines at
play here with this WH. The Dems are
historically involved in grand conspiracies
.. our side is typically not.
...................
http://talkingpoints4radio.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/wanta.pdf


8,432 posted on 08/09/2009 5:26:42 PM PDT by freedommom
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To: freedommom

And that is supposed to mean ??


8,433 posted on 08/09/2009 5:33:38 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Danae; Fred Nerks

Polarik is leaving FR
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2312169/posts

I need to bookmark this exchange because it was another freeper who had a valid Hawaii BC and we relied on Polarik for the internal analysis. It calls into question the capability behind the internal analysis, which I felt was something that was surmountable until now.

To: Danae
Danae, I don’t think that comment is entirely fair. You were convinced your document was received by you in 2000 IIRC and yet it was date stamped much later.

I also wondered how that was possible, but thought it best to let the matter settle, and sure enough, you returned and explained you had made a mistake.

But it wasn’t until you received a receipt from Hawaii that you realized your mistake.

These times are sent to try us. Tempers flare, folks get frustrated. You contributed to the issue by insisting that something that was IMPOSSIBLE was possible.

It’s time to let go. We still have much to do. Let’s do it with goodwill.

594 posted on 08/02/2009 4:53:52 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
He called it a fake me a fraud and was far short of diplomatic about it. He has earned my judgment on that.

604 posted on 08/02/2009 4:57:50 AM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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8,434 posted on 08/09/2009 5:54:52 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: faucetman

Yes, he’s comparing those two. No, he doesn’t say there are only two kinds of citizen. The 14th Amendment already does that.

He doesn’t “refer” to the third at all. He uses “natural born” INSTEAD OF “native born” in his explanation of what the difference between “native born” and “naturalized” is.

Read my post again, please. Carefully. Slowly.


8,435 posted on 08/09/2009 6:21:17 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: faucetman

This is the text I analyzed:

“We start from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the “natural born” citizen is eligible to be President. Art. II, § 1.”

The writer says “The only difference drawn ...” and can mean nothing other than the difference between “the native born and of the naturalized person.”

Thus, the second and final sentence HAS to be referring to “the native born and of the naturalized person,”
too.


8,436 posted on 08/09/2009 6:26:44 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: STARWISE
To tell you the truth I don't know.

I just heard about Leo Wanta thursday and I have put about 15+hours reading all I could.

If true and they pay Leo Wanta the taxes that he would owe would wipe out our debt completely.
The federal reserve would be gone (did Reagan want that?).
I would like to know. If there was a fund set up by Reagan for us and other people stole from it let the chips fall,
That was a court filing so that lends a certain air of authenticity to it.
But I DON'T KNOW.

I read this on a site

The Story Of Leo Wanta
‘The 27.5 Trillion Dollar Man’
The Key Question Looms: Will The Illuminati Banksters Get the Money First
Or Will The American People Get It, As Wanta Is Legal Guardian And
Trustee On Behalf Of The People Of The United States

According to a 2003 federal court ruling by a courageous judge from Virginia, Wanta has been authorized as legal guardian of the vast sum of money made from profits at the end of the Cold War. In one of the most important stories of our time, Wanta holds the ‘finacial key’ to the vast criiminal Illuminati banking network and he says with the help of the American people their system can be destroyed.

By Greg Szymanski
3-26-6

The only thing standing in the way of life and death for Ambassador Leo Wanta is he “knows where the money is hidden” and the Illuminati banksters don't.

A former U.S. Treasury official appointed trustee to a large sum of money by President Ronald Reagan, Wanta holds the financial “golden key” to 27.5trillion dollars, money he says now held in public trust for the American people.

To back up Wanta’s trustee status as protector of trillions, a federal judge in Alexandria, Virginia, in 2003, ruled in his favor, saying Wanta’s trustee status is legally binding and the money is rightfully the property of the American people.

The federal court case, however, has left federal prosecutors in a perplexed state of mind, as they have not yet officially appealed the ruling, perhaps thinking it is better to let “sleeping dogs sleep” until they get their ‘cooked ducks or judges in the right government pond.”

But the real problem, as it stands today and why the money remains in limbo, is simply if Wanta returns the money to the U.S. Treasury, it will be immediately hi-jacked from the people and put into private Iluminati bank accounts since under the present Federal Reserve and the national banking system, there are no laws protecting the American people's money.

“Dutch (President Reagan} always intended the money be returned to the American people to be used for roads, schools and health care,” said Wanta last Thursday on Greg Szymanski’s radio show, the Investigative Journal, where the former Ambassador spoke for two hours while still being held under house arrest in his Switzerland home.

During the interview that can be heard in full by going to The Investigative Journal archives at *www.rbnlive.com* <http://www.rbnlive.com/ , Wanta literally blew the lid off the Illuminati’s world wide banking scam, as well as providing detailed information about how Illiminati banksters with help from former President Clinton have already hijacked 752 billion dollars in what has been called by European investigators “the biggest bank heist in world history.”

Besides the large sums of money at stake and the need to revamp the Federal Reserve and national banking laws to protect the public not private interests, Wanta’s story involves undercover intrigue and espionage at the highest levels, providing a mystery story better than any Hollywood movie can offer.

Behind following the money, his story involves saving President Reagan's life in a little known assassination attempt left unreported in the mainstream press (see rbn interview), authority to arrest Marc (Reich) Rich, a meeting with Vince Foster just prior to his untimely death and just prior to Wanta being placed in a Swiss dungeon for 134 days when he confronted Rich, who was allowed to go free through White House connections.

To better understand Wanta’s role and the importance of his story, not to mention how 27.5 trillion dollars could provide a good jump start to the American economy, it's best to go back to his original assignment in the Reagan administration at the time the Cold War was coming to a close.

At this time, Wanta, a distinguished U5 Secret Service/Treasury officer was the primary US Financial Warfare officer engaged in operations to “collapse” the Soviet Empire through financial maneuvers to prevent the Soviet military devoting larger resources to military expenditure.

For his financial plan which destabilized the Russian currency and resulted in huge dollar profits, leading into the 27.5 trillion in trust, instead of being recognized for his service, he was set-up by the Clinton's and the Bush crime family after being released from the Swiss jail, sentenced to a 22 year jail term on bogus Wisconsin state income tax evasion charges

Although recently released and protected in a sense by the 2003 federal court ruling in his favor, Wanta has languished much of the time since 1993 in jail and now under house arrest, the primary reason for his predicament being he audited the Illuminati’s giga-financing operation of 1989-92 too accurately far the liking of certain high-level official crooks controlling the purse strings.

Regarding the Rich arrest in Switzerland and his meeting with Foster, Wanta said this on The Investigative Journal last week:

“I was named Ambassador from Somalia to Switzerland and Canada as a cover to arrest Rich. When I go there, I found myself in a Swiss dungeon and Rich was set free. Foster was also there on behlaf of the Clinton's, asking for $250 million to be used for The Children's Fund, which Hillary was the chairman. I thought it was to be used for a good cause so We gave him the money.

“Later Vince attempted to help me out of my situation, but I was later notified he was found dead and I never found out what happened to the $250 million.”

Although Wanta had no idea what The Children's Fund was all about, later a financial investigator, Marco Saba of the Organized Crime Observatory in Switzerland wrote this about turned out to be a secret fund:

“One component of this information concerns the activities of the CIA operative known as Mrs Hillary Rodham Clinton. For some years prior to the elevation of her husband, Bill, a CIA operative like his ‘’CIA wife’’, Hillary had been in control of an organization calling itself the Children’’s Defense Fund. Executive Order 12333 (1981) of President Reagan, the US intelligence services were authorised to operate what became known as Title 18, Section 6 USG corporations for intelligence purposes, and to deny any intelligence community connection (that is, to lie about their real purpose). Some of these entities have touchy-feely, welfarish titles, like The Children’’s Defense Fund. It is alleged, un the basis of intelligence community leakages, that Hillary became accustomed to treating this fund as her own private slush fund.”

However, behind the scenes of Rich, Foster and the Clinton's, a bigger game of world politics and deception was being played out, as Wanta unknowingly was caught in the middle of the U.S./Soviet double-cross of the American people, as the two collaborated to bring about an orchestrated fall of the Soviet Union.

An excerpt from an article from the Centro Studi Monetari, Arab-Asian Affairs, Vol. 29, Numbers 8&9, December 2005, explains the backstabbing and double-crossing going on behind the scenes when the Cold War was being orchestrated to a close to serve the purposes of the demonic Illuminati powers pulling the strings behind the scenes, as Wanta unknowingly serving patriotic U.S. interests was in the middle of the whole mess:

8,437 posted on 08/09/2009 6:32:54 PM PDT by freedommom
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To: Technical Editor
Tell me, already. When is a native citizen not a natural born citizen?

When he or she seeks to become President, and is not born of two citizen parents, Technical Editor.

8,438 posted on 08/09/2009 6:38:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: thecodont
Brings to mind imagery of the famous Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse (1940).

It's a good analogy. Just like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, the forces that are being hurled against us will cause us to collapse, or be undone in some way.

In my mind, that undoing will come in the form of a second Revolution/Civil War.

If we move quickly, it will not cost us much in the way of lives and social destabilization. But, the longer we tarry, the higher the cost will be for the people, and our national security.

If we tarry too long, there will be no price we can pay that will restore our country to its former self.

8,439 posted on 08/09/2009 6:45:27 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: freedommom; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

Holy Moly .. that’s so complex, my head’s spinning .. whew!

I’m lost in the global financial structures and markets .. anybody have the real gist of the scope and impact ?

If anyone knows or has a friend of a friend at those high government/global financial market levels, please .. do chime in.


8,440 posted on 08/09/2009 6:49:34 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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