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  • When the US actually did move ‘heaven and earth’ ... Nixon’s order to use “everything that can fly” to resupply Israel,

    05/11/2024 6:06:26 AM PDT · 30 of 30
    Vlad0 to daniel1212

    This article is from Oct. of 2022. The Nixon Israel story is just a wind up for the pitch for more arms for Ukraine. My sense is Ukraine has probably received many more arms and dollars since this was written.

    Even fanatic Zeepers don’t claim they are winning the war anymore though.

  • The Origins of Christian Anti-Semitism

    05/09/2024 4:40:04 PM PDT · 51 of 62
    Vlad0 to Petrosius
    Nor do Christians have a record of mass slaughtering of Jews. That was carried out by very anti-Christian Nazi secularists.

    But there was a history of European pogroms long before the Nazi's took over Germany, centered in Russia (pre-Communist revolution).

    Given the era one can say with some certainty that the persecutors were Christian (although not following Christian doctrine).

    Significant pogroms in the Russian Empire included the Odessa pogroms, Warsaw pogrom (1881), Kishinev pogrom (1903), Kiev pogrom (1905), and Białystok pogrom (1906). After the collapse of the Russian Empire in 1917, several pogroms occurred amidst the power struggles in Eastern Europe, including the Lwów pogrom (1918) and Kiev pogroms (1919).
  • The Origins of Christian Anti-Semitism

    05/09/2024 2:00:49 PM PDT · 43 of 62
    Vlad0 to SheepWhisperer
    Yes, the Jews, through and using the Roman proxy and legal system, killed Jesus.

    It's an odd thing -a bit ahistorical - to claim that the occupied nation, riven with its own divisions, was really so powerful that they forced the Governor (with actual Roman legions at his disposal) to do something.

    I think when you take over the Role of the Government (which Rome did) and set yourself up as the Legal System as Rome did, and insist that you alone have to power to punish and condemn people as Pontious Pilot did... then you can't - at the last minute, or in the eyes of history say "Oh no: that noisy group of protesters MADE ME DO IT, it wasn't really my fault at all.

    That seems preposterous to claim. Anyone who does seems like they are compensating or making excuses.

    The Buck Stops Here: Pontius Pilot

    To use a modern example: the entire Leftist mob hates Trump and wants to put him in jail, but when he is finally convicted the cause of that will be the Court System and Jury that tried him, despite all the braying of the Atlantic Magazine and MS-NBC it's the legal apparatus that did the deed.

  • The Origins of Christian Anti-Semitism

    05/09/2024 1:48:00 PM PDT · 41 of 62
    Vlad0 to Wuli
    American Christians also need to be reminded that until late in the last century (1900-2000) Jewsish persons were not admitted to the most prestiges colleges and

    Doing a little poking around to verify this, I found this interesting case:

    Judah Monis (February 4, 1683 – April 25, 1764) was North America's first college instructor of the Hebrew language, teaching at Harvard College from 1722 to 1760, and authored the first Hebrew textbook published in North America.

    Monis was also the first Jew to receive a college degree in the American colonies. His conversion to Christianity made him a figure of some controversy to both Jews and Christian.

    I guess seeing as he converted you can say he wasn't a Jew (if you use only the religious component of being Jewish as your measure) -- but then again Harvard's only function early on was as a Divinity School to created Anglican ministers for the British colonies. In England, being a minister was a high-status, well paid position, so most were not interested in moving to the colonies.

    So, one would not expect a Divinity School dedicated to education and training of Anglican pastors to have any Jewish students, would one?

  • The Origins of Christian Anti-Semitism

    05/09/2024 1:33:53 PM PDT · 38 of 62
    Vlad0 to The Sons of Liberty
    GOD sent his SON and they mocked, scorned and murdered him by nailing him to a cross, not a hell of a lot has gone well for the Jews and there seems to be no group who really likes them.

    All 12 Apostles were Jewish. Almost all his original followers were Jewish. Jewish lovers of Christ created the Christian religion. To attribute the death of Jesus to the Jews, without noticing his deification by some other Jews seems like cherry-picking your data.

    WHen you say: and murdered him by nailing him to a cross - remind me if I am getting this wrong. Wasan't Jerusalem an occupied city in the midst of a large chunk of the expanded Roman Empire circa 30 A.D.. Was not the punishment of criminals the sole right of the Government at the time: that is the Romans? Doesn't the New Testament tell us that Pilate sentanced Jesus to die, and that Roman Centurians nailed him to the cross, just as they nailed the two other criminals who were sentenced to death by crucifiction at the same time? Wasn't it a Roman soldier who delivered the coup d'grace by using a spear to stab him in the abdomen?

    That's how I remember it, but it's been a while since I read that part of the Bible. Jews were the peanut gallery.

  • The Origins of Christian Anti-Semitism

    05/09/2024 11:46:21 AM PDT · 11 of 62
    Vlad0 to Petrosius
    Not to justify anti-Semitism, but why is there always talk about it but never any mention of anti-Christian sentiment among the Jews?

    I think that's a very fair question. It might have to do with the power differentials, the Jews never being a large nation or having an empire were rarely in as good a position to weaponize their anti-Christianity as (some) Christian (and Islamic, and Pagan) nations were to weaponize their anti-Jewish beliefs and feelings.

    And of course this culminated in the Holocaust, which while there were many other victims of the Nazi terror, was obsessively focused on the Jews.

    Anyway, that's my first draft answer of "why the focus on anti-Semtism and not anti-Christianity. As it relates to the news in the USA today, it's not Christian students who are being threatened in all of these campus encampments, it's Jews (ethnically and religiously) who are. So, that's why anti-Semitism is topical right now, and perhaps anti-Christianity isn't so much.

    Historically the biggest and most effective anti-Christian ideology has been Islam, by far, and not Judaism, I would argue.

    None the less I find your question so interesting that I will devote some future posts to the question of Jewish anti-Christianity or anti-European (white people) prejudice.

    Thanks for the interesting comment.

  • The Origins of Christian Anti-Semitism

    05/09/2024 11:40:01 AM PDT · 10 of 62
    Vlad0 to Jonty30

    Thanks! That’s a very interesting article I’ve never come across. Much appreciated!

  • The Origins of Christian Anti-Semitism

    05/09/2024 11:39:01 AM PDT · 9 of 62
    Vlad0 to Tell It Right
    Jewish leaders in Jesus' day: "Crucify him!!!"

    But then Jesus himself was a Jew, and almost all of his original followers, including all 12 apostles, were all Jewish too.

    So the whole drama of his life took place within the Jewish culture and nation of the day. The fact is that some Jews loved Jesus, and some hated him and wanted him dead.

    Those historic facts don't by themselves do much to explain Christian anti-Semitism.

    Why not focus on his Jewish origin and many Jewish followers, and instead focus on the small mob that backed the State in his persecution and execution by crucifixion?

    By the way: neither of the two Dutch scholars who wrote these articles (this one, and the one I posted yesterday) are themselves Jewish. And, for the record, neither am I.

    The author of this article has a Ph.D in Christian Theology from one of the oldest Universities in the Netherlands, which played a huge role in the development of Dutch Reform theology during the early Reformation.

    It's still an interesting topic, and lots of Christians and other non-Jewish people are interested in the question of "What is the origin of Christian anti-Semitism?"

  • The Origins of Christian Anti-Semitism

    05/09/2024 11:25:51 AM PDT · 4 of 62
    Vlad0 to Angelino97; JesusIsLord; doc maverick; Altura Ct.; BillyBoy; hinckley buzzard; af_vet_1981; ...
    This is taking the topic of yesterday's post and extending it further backwards in time, to examine the roots of anti-Semitism in the early church. Long before the Reformation (yesterday's post). It too is written by a Dutch Professor, but a different one than yesterday's.
  • The Origins of Christian Anti-Semitism

    05/09/2024 11:18:45 AM PDT · 1 of 62
    Vlad0
    I have manually excerpted this article, but the whole thing is interesting and available at the link.

    Given the events going on in the USA these days, with these campus protests, it seems like it might be valuable to look at the historic roots of anti-Semitism.

  • The Historical Roots of the Anti-Israel Positions of Liberal Protestant Churches

    05/07/2024 12:41:21 PM PDT · 27 of 28
    Vlad0 to Menes
    I'm not quite getting your point about Willam L. Shirer. So, he's a very famous historian focused on WW2.

    The article I posted is an interview with a Dutch historian with a particular focus on the history of anti-Semitism and Christianity, Hans Jansen. (Which is a common name, and there is a more famous Dutch scholar of Islam (now deceased) with the same name, but I do not believe they are one and the same person.)

    This Hans Jansen has written several books on antisemitism through the ages, but unfortunately they are only in Dutch.

    This one is roughly translated as "Christian Theology After Aushwitz".

  • The Historical Roots of the Anti-Israel Positions of Liberal Protestant Churches

    05/07/2024 11:16:01 AM PDT · 26 of 28
    Vlad0 to Angelino97
    Some speculate that Luther didn't write The Jews and Their Lies.

    I haven't studied the matter, but there's apparently a case to be made that it's a work of forgery. Someone other than Luther wrote it, either to trade on his name, or to discredit him

    Feel free to toss up any links you have that expand on this theory.

    To put it mildly: I am highly skeptical of it.

    Martin Luther lived from 1483–1546. To say he was an important and prominent man at the end of his life would be an understatement.

    The Book On the Jews and Their Lies was published in 1543. Several years before his death. If it was a forgery it would have been refuted at the time, but it was not.

    Facsimile of the first editon:

    The entire first edition of the book is available in facsimile here:

    https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/en/view/bsb00023847?page=,1

    From the Encyclopedia Britanica:

    Luther’s role in the Reformation after 1525 was that of theologian, adviser, and facilitator but not that of a man of action. Biographies of Luther accordingly have a tendency to end their story with his marriage in 1525. Such accounts gallantly omit the last 20 years of his life, during which much happened. The problem is not just that the cause of the new Protestant churches that Luther had helped to establish was essentially pursued without his direct involvement, but also that the Luther of these later years appears less attractive, less winsome, less appealing than the earlier Luther who defiantly faced emperor and empire at Worms.

    Repeatedly drawn into fierce controversies during the last decade of his life, Luther emerges as a different figure—irascible, dogmatic, and insecure. His tone became strident and shrill, whether in comments about the Anabaptists, the pope, or the Jews. In each instance his pronouncements were virulent: the Anabaptists should be hanged as seditionists, the pope was the Antichrist, the Jews should be expelled and their synagogues burned. Such were hardly irenic words from a minister of the gospel, and none of the explanations that have been offered—his deteriorating health and chronic pain, his expectation of the imminent end of the world, his deep disappointment over the failure of true religious reform—seem satisfactory.

    The issue of Martin Luther's increasing anti-Semitism was an issue during his life. He published his screeds during his life, some in multiple editions.

    I see no evidence whatsoever for the odd claim that he really didn't write this book. It seems very convenient for advocates of Luther to claim this in our era, but the facts simply do not support it.

  • The Historical Roots of the Anti-Israel Positions of Liberal Protestant Churches

    05/07/2024 10:27:26 AM PDT · 25 of 28
    Vlad0 to Angelino97; af_vet_1981; bankwalker
    Yikes! I really screwed this up. In summarizing the age of the Talmud a turned "CE" into "BC", which of course is wrong.

    CE = Common Era is the same as A.D. in the traditional nomenclature.

    BCE = Before Common Era is the same as B.C.

    I know this, but I made the mistake.

    The Babylonian Talmud has two parts, the texts from circa 200 A.D. and the commentaries from circa 500 A.D. So, yes, there may be stuff in there about Jesus.

    It's a little confusing because the original Babylonian Exile or Captivity of the Jews was indeed in the B.C. era - beginning in 587 B.C. when the Neo-Babylonian empire conquered Judea and forced Jews to relocate.

    The era of the Talmud was many centuries later, after the destruction of the 2nd Temple in 70 A.D. and the diaspora of the Jews. Babylon, being one of the great cities of the Middle East at that time was a destination for many exiled Jews.

    My apologies. Carry on!

  • The Historical Roots of the Anti-Israel Positions of Liberal Protestant Churches

    05/06/2024 2:47:15 PM PDT · 8 of 28
    Vlad0 to JesusIsLord
    The tone of the author isn't "selective outrage", it's merely academic recounting.

    The article (did you even read it?) is very specific about what some pretty key founders of Protestantism (Martin Luther) had to say about the Jews. It's pretty harsh.

    I'm not an expert on the Talmud, I read a book of short excerpts from it. Perhaps there is some anti-Christian sentament in it, but the core of the Talmud was written in Babylon in the period around 200 B.C. There wasn't a big Christian population there, so I don't know if what you are saying is correct. Also given the overwhelming size of the Talmud and the number of authors it contains (hundreds) I'm not sure even if you can find an isolated quote it's comprable in importance to (for instance) Martin Luther's ranting about the Jews at length, and writing an entire treatese on them (which was published and widely read in the period). After all millions and millions of Americans self-describe as "Lutherans".

    Also, the very worst sort of disreputable anti-Semites often make up lying quotes and attribute them to Jewish sources. This is the sort of "every day meme warfare" that one sees on Twitter (X) and Gab. (The famous quote attributed to Voltaire, but actually written by a 20th century White Supremacist is the signature example) A complete unabridged set of the Babylonian Talmud. (There is also the Jerusalem Talmud, which is not pictured).

    If you have read even a fraction of this, I salute you!

  • The Historical Roots of the Anti-Israel Positions of Liberal Protestant Churches

    05/06/2024 12:17:21 PM PDT · 1 of 28
    Vlad0
    This article is from 2007, but is obviously timely given what is going on in the nation's universities.

    Full article at link

  • With a vest and a voice, helpers escort kids through San Francisco’s broken Tenderloin streets

    05/05/2024 12:47:40 PM PDT · 6 of 14
    Vlad0 to Leaning Right

    LibTard hell!

  • Ukraine hits Putin’s oil refinery in kamikaze drone strike sparking fireball blast near Moscow

    05/01/2024 7:57:21 AM PDT · 22 of 35
    Vlad0 to marcusmaximus
    The use of the term "Kamikaze" in this context is stupid.

    When I shoot my .44 Mag am I sending "kamikaze" bullets down range?

    Kamikaze (神風, pronounced [kamiꜜkaze]; 'divine wind' or 'spirit wind'), officially Shinpū Tokubetsu Kōgekitai (神風特別攻撃隊, 'Divine Wind Special Attack Unit') were a part of the Japanese Special Attack Units of military aviators who flew suicide attacks for the Empire of Japan against Allied naval vessels in the closing stages of the Pacific campaign of World War II, intending to destroy warships more effectively than with conventional air attacks. About 3,800 kamikaze pilots died during the war, and more than 7,000 naval personnel were killed by kamikaze attacks.
  • Who runs the American agitprop machine?

    04/28/2024 6:28:50 AM PDT · 21 of 51
    Vlad0 to Bookshelf
    Interesting. A highly Jewish group.

    Jews make up only 2% of America but apparently 65% of JournoList, a conspiracy of highly placed writers who worked to coordinate leftist propaganda and advance lq saweftism.

  • United Methodist Church votes to allow Eurasian churches to leave denomination

    04/27/2024 3:33:59 AM PDT · 14 of 23
    Vlad0 to UMCRevMom@aol.com

    Any thoughts on this?

  • Russia breaks through Ukraine front line and captures strategically important town after 'newly-arrived brigade fled their post' in major blow to Kyiv - just as US finally approves huge aid package

    04/24/2024 4:53:34 AM PDT · 19 of 50
    Vlad0 to C19fan