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Can you hear that low-pitched whirring sound? It's Georege Washington turning in his grave.

Democrats are always wrong; as in, never right.

Any time Republicans agree with Democrats, Republicans are wrong. Republicans agree with Democrats far too often.

Republicans do not oppose Democrats as nearly as often as they should.

Bipartisn is BS.

The United States is not about party politics. Who remembers Washington's farewell address?

The author of the article doesn't know or realize government's only possible function of benefit is the protection or preserveration of individual life and property. Everything else is up to us as individuals. Every time someone envisions using government as a tool for use in implementing anything, the thing government is chosen to assist is destroyed and often with collateral damage.

Start with the post office.

Fifty years ago, the US had an incredible health care system, the envy of the world. No one was denied needed care whether they could pay for it or not. Claims to the contrary are wrong in spite of isolated rare exceptions. Political leaders and Congress saw a good thing and wanted more of it at lower price. And if someone could not afford to pay, no problem. We would all pay to eliminate the risk that the exceptions might increase in number.

Pick any topic; there is nothing that government cannot make worse. Conversely, what has government improved?

Education?

Science? We have a President who thinks he can change the the world's climate. The delusions of grandeur of government and its proponents know no limits in spite of a record of near perfect failures and virtually no successes apart from the illusions of isolated examples of a complex nature where it can be argued that goverment did something beneficial because the benefit is obvious but the problems are not so obvious. The interstate highway system being the first, and the space program possibly the second.

The twentieth century is the perfect example of government benefits. The greatest threat to human beings of any country proved to come from their own governments where governments around the world killed more of their own citizens than any foreign powers. If you think the US is an exception, maybe you should reconsider and examine all of the facts. Start by asking the Branch Davidians in Waco. Oh, that's right. You can't; they don't exist anymore.

Washington's Farewell address admonished against foreign entanglements especially with England and Europe. Have you ever really thought about why the United States got involved in WWI? Have you ever considered that Wilson bungled the peace treaty that ended WWI or that the treaty that ended WWI was the proximate cause of WWII. How many Americans died in WWI and WWII? A compelling case is easily built that our government's policies are responsible for almost all the American deaths of WWI and WWII.

No doubt many will argue that we fought those wars to protect our own freedom by expanding the opportunities for freedom for others in their own countries. Look around. How's that working out for us or for the other people?

Commerce, industry and trade are the essential ingredients that make it possible for us all to thrive and increase our wealth. Money is the single most important tool necessary to those efforts. The history of our money can be summarized in three quotes:
Not worth a continental!
Sound as a dollar.
It's our money, but it's your problem.

Before 1912, the United States was the envy and role model of the world. Woodrow Wilson and both major political parties amended and subverted the Constitution in direct opposition to the warnings from Thomas Jefferson, “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.” In one century, the US government stole more than 95% of the purchasing power of its citizens’ money.

The proponents for government attest to the God-like magical powers of a benevolent government. The success America has enjoyed is in spite of a government that was shackled by a prudent group of men who recognized who actually paves the road of good intentions. In 1830, Alex de Tocqueville wrote, “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money. A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” When a leading institution's first thought about the responsibilities of government or the political parties that seek to compose it are “...focused on doing things for its customers” surely Jefferson's and de Tocqueville’s admonitions are about to become reality.

"Why can't we use the radio to promote A PROGRAM, The PLAN to IMPLEMENT IT, and to discover the LEADER to make it clear and inspire citizen followers?... Those so-called "conservatives" who stayed home are...the missing key

I think you are definitely on to something here. The talk show hosts should be able to find the messages that do three things that are badly needed:

• The party leaders need to be educated to the fact that the conservativs voters that are needed for Republicans to win will not turn out for RINOs and Democrats win when conservatives do not turn out.
• The primary system allows cross-over voting where libs and Democrats can tilt the choice of Republican candidates toward RINOs.
• Compromising with Democrats paves the path to serfdom and a prolonged death, not a new healthy, happy life. Bipartisan is BS. It spells permanent minority status for the Republican Party and allows the United States to slowly die in a progressive state of lower standards of living and impoverishment.

Little more than a decade from now, no one will ever admit that they were a Democrat or a Republican. The Democratic Party is the kool-aid that is the suicide pill that is killing America. And the Republican Party will be recognized as the enablers that did not do enought to stop it.

It is not too late to restore the Republic and with it our lost freedoms. Charles and David Koch cam muster the resources to do it. Is there anybody on this site who can get me in touch with the Kochs or are there enough concerned Freepers to make enough noise that the Kochs will hear our message?

"Conservative talk show hosts are the Paul Reveres and Thomas Paines of today and they can be incredibly important in the larger picture" 

 

"We have every opportunity and every encouragement before us, to form the noblest, purest constitution on the face of the earth. We have it in our power to begin the world over again."

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"We have every opportunity and every encouragement before us, to form the noblest, purest constitution on the face of the earth. We have it in our power to begin the world over again."

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"A clearly articulated and led political alternative is needed first." 

 

"We have every opportunity and every encouragement before us, to form the noblest, purest constitution on the face of the earth. We have it in our power to begin the world over again."

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You have discovered why socialism fails every time it is tried. Government punishes the productive by selectively punishing them with taxes. It subsidizes the unproductive so it becomes axiomatic that there will be a progressive growth of the unproductive. Socialists punish success; socialists reward failure.

Insurance? There is no legitimate role for government in insurance. It is impossible for anyone to successfully protect people from their own follies. The result of trying to protect people from their own follies it to fill the world with fools. Everybody suffers the consequences. The nation and its economy who follow the path of socialism are inevitably doomed by their own folly.

I wish I could claim credit, but I got it from someone else and I hope they will forgive for not remembering which Freeper.

"The man lies like a rug."

We have a world class liar in the Whitehouse. Does it take one to beat one?

All kidding aside, what I am about to say is serious business.

The following quote comes from Ludwig von Mises's "Human Action","The wavelike movement affecting the economic system, the recurrence of periods of boom which are followed by periods of depression, is the unavoidable outcome of the attempts, repeated again and again, to lower the gross market rate of interest by means of credit expansion. There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved."

It describes both the business cycle and the so-called "long wave" or Kwave, aka the Kondratiff wave. Fractional reserve banking introduces errors into the economy creating the illusion of more demand than is actually present. Over time, fractional reserve banking compounds these errors to a point at which the economic dynamics can no longer support the debt pyramid and the bust phase or depression follows.

Prior to the invention of the printing press, capitalism was not possible. No, it is not related to the ability to print money or bonds. The printing press made it possible and feasible for ordinary men to learn to read and write, the tools needed to be able to share knowledge horizontally over large numbers and vertically through time. Knowledge and ingenuity are the essential ingredients that drive capitalism. Add freedom and anybody can get rich. And everybody who can read has the means to increase their standard of living and level of wealth.

It took a couple of centuries to accumulate enough intellectual and financial capital to make the birth of capitalism possible around 1700. The birth of the United States in 1776 corresponds to a Kwave winter, just as the Great Depression corresponds to a Kwave winter. For roughly three centuries the economic upheavels of Kwave winter resulting from the booms and busts of fractional reserve banking have spawned revolutions with the accompanying births and deaths of nations. Gresham's Law of Politicians is the underlying foundation for Gresham's Law of Money. Thomas Jefferson understood, "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them...If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them [around the banks], will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

Charles Koch and his brother David are well-schooled in Austrian economic theory. They understand freedom and free market capitalism. Now that the United States is about to enter another Kwave winter, one that Jefferson, de Tocqueville, von Mises and Ronald Reagan have all predicted could co-incide with the end of the United States, maybe it would behoove everybody to take a step back, review history, and stop repeating the mistakes of the past.

Doing nothing is exactly what Reagan tried to warn Americans about with this quote from his 1964 speech in behalf of Barry Goldwater, "We have come to a time for choosing; we will preserve for our children this the last best hope for man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness.....history will record with the greatest astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening."

Thomas Paine said, "Lead, follow or get out of the way." Whether by choice or by chance, for you Jim, there is really no choice at this point. If the United States is to survive, fate seems to be positioning you to lead. I for one, do not believe you are going to let FreeRepublic or America down.

What was true in 1776 depended on leadership. And Jim, it is still true in 2012, just GO FOR IT.

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again."

"We need an outsider to radically transform government and politics."

PRECISELY!

Communication, the exchange of ideas and concepts, is extremely difficult. Allow me to begin with an apology for my own skills which rank among the poorest of the poor. Please set aside your pre-conceived ideas and misconceptions about what you think I have implied or recommended. Your arguments against them are spurious and flawed. Please allow me to show you why.

You can recognize some of the frustration and lament in one the Great Communicator's most famous quotes, "We have come to a time for choosing; we will preserve for our children this the last best hope for man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness.....history will record with the greatest astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening."

If you will give me the benefit of the doubt and we are successful in getting you to examine the ideas that our group has been putting forward, it should be easy for you to understand why we would ask if Ronald Reagan was speaking directly to you and to Jim Robinson with the last part of the quote, "those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening." about the 2012 election?

I suspect that each of you are good solid well-meaning conservatives. Ronald Reagan, like most Christians, believed that there is some good in almost everybody. In contrast, Reagan was not blind to the truth, that most politicians whether liberal or conservative, are corrupt. If Republican politicians knew how, or really wanted to solve the problem of big government, they have had ample opportunity.

The United States is in decline. Using history as our guide, we might have fewer than five elections left, but if our problems are to be solved in time, they need to be addressed now.

The Reagan Wing is the solution to politicians. It is a way to recruit candidates cut from the same cloth as the Founders and made from the same mold as Ronald Reagan. It is too late for this election with the single exception of recruiting Romney to become part of the Reagan Wing.

"The Powers That Be fully understand this.."

If the Reoublican Powers that be understood this..we wouldn't have the mess that we are in.

We had a consideraly less liberal Democrat (Clinton compared to Obama, and the most right leaning conservative Congress in seventy years and things got worse.

Don't confuse gridlock with actually electing a President and Congress that might actually have a chance to turn the tide. If Palin, Gingrich, Santorum and Paul are as bad as you seem to believe or imply, then why bother to vote at all because the US would be at the gates of hell.

"Sorry friend, but authority figures don't do my thinking for me."

How clearly are you thinking?

As it stands today, Obama or Romney is going to be the next President. For the sake of discussion, assume that God has ordained it that Obama is going to lose. As you see it now, Romney is a second class socialist as compared to Barak.

Even if Romney and the others made a complete fool out of you, you would still be still better off because of Palin's improved electability.

"..I am still looking for a solution..."

Charles Koch has been looking for fifty years. Ben Franklin knew we were in trouble before the ink was dry on the Constitution; "A republic, if you can keep it," and every conservative since de Tocqueille, “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy.."

FreeRepublic has one. Perhaps you should examine it so you can stop wasting your time looking elsewhere and start working to advance the one we have.

"It is going to be a very, very, very hard sell that I can believe anything Mitt says."

That is understandable and everybody would have a right to be skeptical. But if Koch vouches for him, Palin vouches for him, and Newt plus the others vouch for him, the smart thing to do is believe and vote with the hope and expectation that Romney would live up to expectations because there are no other alternatives today that would even remotely offer any chance at all for turning the country around.

This is the best possible political deal in town. No one is going to put anything forward at this point that is credibly better or offers anything remotely close to the kind of potential this puts on the political table.

And even if Romney turned out to be a complete disappointment, it is still a better outcome than the alternatives. Why?

Having been Vice President, Sarah Palin's stature and presence in future elections will be compelling. It is not possible for me to believe the Democrats could ever find a credible opponent to run against her.

"Peloski is such a crybaby!"

Pelosi is a very dangerous anti-freedom propagandist who needs to be defeated and humiliated. Depriving her of her political microphone by beating her would give her a taste of her own efforts to muzzle free speech.

No one is pushing or even recommending Mitt Romney. What you are seeing is a way to change Mitt Romney from what he is into something much closer to Ronald Reagan.

If freedom loving conservatives are to politically win back the country from socialists, we have to turn socialists into freedom loving capitalists. Ronald Reagan was smart enough and enough of a persistent student of history that he figured it out for himself. Not nearly enough people are like Ronald Reagan and able to figure it out for themselves; most will need help.

It is unlikely that you and I are going to convince Romney to change. But Charles Koch has the wherewithall to get Palin, Gingrich and the others together in a setting that will make if far more likely that Romney can actually be enlightened under the guidance of people who have already discovered the truth.

And it doesn't hurt that Romney is a reasonably skilled politician who wants the top job and he wants it in a setting where history says he is an underdog. With the right coaching, he can probably be convinced that his chances of winning are much higher if he can can convince conservatives like yourself and most Freepers to vote for him instead of passing on the race and letting Obama win by default.

I would be willing to bet you voted for McCain-Palin. If Charles Koch can make that scenario happen, there is the distinct possbility that Romney can be converted to a conservative that is genuinely well to the right of McCain by the time he has the nomination in hand and has named Palin as his running mate. With just a little more instruction and coaching, he might well be tranformed into something much closer to Ronald Reagan.

Nothing even remotely close to something like this is going to happen if Obama wins or Romney wins without Koch's and FreeRepublic's influence to pull him to the right where he would have the best chance of beating Obama. FreeRepublic will not help without your getting onboard. And I am pointedly not asking you to help Mitt Romney, I am asking you to help us get FreeRepublic's Plan into Charles Koch's hands. Koch has means and stature that he can bring to bear and that will allow the scenario I have outlined to actually have a chance to take place. Neither you, nor I, nor FreeRepublic can do what Mr. Koch can do, but Jim, you have the means to get FreeRepublic on board and FreeRepublic has the means to send enough messages or mail to Koch Industries that some of them will rise to the attention of Mr. Koch. After that it will be up to him to recognize just how politically powerful FreeRepublic's Plan can be. It carries the seeds that can grow into an instrument that makes it possible for us to get our freedom back and turn it back into a country run by We the people instead of a country run by the government.

Prior to 1964, Ronald Reagan spent most of his life as a New Deal Democrat. Ronald Reagan changed.

Mitt Romney can change too. Who can convince him to change?

Charles Koch, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul for starters.

How?

FreeRepublic's Plan For Taking Our Country Back

Don't like the picture above?

Jim Robinson and FreeRepublic could make it possible to paint a completly different picture.

"We need to clean House and Senate too."

Step One Every member of Congress who believes participation in Social Security should be MANDATORY needs an opponent who believes participation in SS should be a matter of individual choice. It's the difference between freedom and becoming wards of the state who are serfs.

Step Two This is how we find and elect the candidates for step one.

The time for implementing some of these steps for the 2012 election has unfortunately passed. But there is a lot that can be done to have a HUGE impact on the 2012 election.

Americans have a chance to CHANGE the course of our country by defeating Obama in November. Defeating Obama would only be half the battle for changing the course of our country. Romney would shrink the deficits and be better for business, but in complete contrast to Ronald Reagan ("Government is not the solution to our problems; government is the problem"), Romney believes government is part of the solution to our country's problems rather than being the problem itself.

The other half of the solution for changing the course of the country is to convince Mitt Romney that Ronald Reagan was right. Who could do this and how? Jim Robinson and FreeRepublic could be the catalysts that jump start the process. If enough Freepers ask Jim Robinson to make this a FreeRepublic priority, convincing Romney to adopt Ronald Reagan as his role model would make Romney far more electable and the CHANGE WOULD BE REAL.

The solution for complex problems which can be so large as to be seemingly impossible can sometimes be amazingly simple if the right people decide to apply themselves and just do it.