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“You’re right. Their hatred is getting old. It’s like the conservative version of Jeremiah Wright.”

Except he’s more conservative, and higher paid. Oh yeah, and not angry at his own apostasy. Oh yeah, and he’s a man. But behavioral wise, right on.

Excellent tagline. I thought this to myself yesterday when I saw that they were calling for more tax records. I’m just release a slip of paper that says something like “Call me when Obama has released his ________.”

You have to be nuts or an obsessed liar (can be both!), to interject a lie, completely unrelated to anything the thread addresses, on a thread with legitimate purpose, simply because you can’t get over your own change of denomination. It’s really, really, sad. Keep her in your prayers.

“but I’ll gladly stop at a few checkpoints if it means we’re finally cracking down on illegals”
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Herr Obama welcomes your ignorant desire for “security” at the expense of liberty.

Did you mention illegals???....

“Closure of Border Patrol Stations Across Four States Triggers Alarm”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2905356/posts

“The Obama administration is moving to shut down nine Border Patrol stations across four states, triggering a backlash from local law enforcement, members of Congress and Border Patrol agents themselves. “

Heya Kart, I saw your exchange, and want to thank you for your well reasoned (as always) and helpful posts. Some people just like their head in the sand, or worse, want to be the cowboys in a disaster.

Due to the power outages back east, my brother’s family, and folks were out of power for a week. My brother fired up his generator and asked his friends if they needed to use his freezer to store all of their frozen goods, or at least the most valuable. He explained that power might be out a while, but they insisted it would only be a few hours without power, maybe a day or two tops. Within days, they came with coolers of meat, begging to salvage what little had not already spoiled in the heat wave. He, of course, helped them, but they had lost hundreds to thousands of dollars in meats, etc. The saddest part is that they could have saved it all, if only they had accepted the invitation. They DIDN’T EVEN HAVE TO PREPARE THEMSELVES, my brother offered to share his preps (in this case the generator and freezer) to help them, and they still declined until it was too late!

May we all take that as an example. As you often quote, the wise see danger and take shelter, and the foolish don’t, and suffer (I don’t remember it verbatim, sorry). God bless you and yours, and thanks for all the work you do, in Jesus’ name, amen.

“First they came for the flower gardeners, and I said nothing.

Next they came for the vegetable gardeners.....”
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This was from about 3 weeks ago, but the story is a little bit older:

“Gov Criminalizes Self Reliance: Woman’s Survival Garden Seized and Destroyed by Authorities”

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/gov-criminalizes-self-reliance-womans-survival-garden-seized-and-destroyed-by-authorities_06192012

I saw this earlier and added some keywords. Thank you so much for sending out the ping. Living here, I’d never comply. This is truly ridiculous, but then again ammo is getting banned by Herbert, and, after all it IS ILLEGAL to gather rainwater in Utah.*

(*You are now, as of last year, permitted to get a legal permit, allowing one to gather a few hundred gallons of rainwater, our benefactor’s gift to us peasants, just a small token of the government’s benevolence.)

No, no, no, they just didn’t have the computers required to print enough stimulus. Get your story straight!

“Y2K was a real threat that was wisely diverted thru a great deal of money and effort.

Calling it a scam is like describing the flood risk along the Mississippi as a scam.”
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Kinda like that biblical Jonah and his Nineveh scam huh?/s

In all seriousness, that truly was a disaster averted.

Well, normally, I wouldn’t say it, but since you brought it up...I have long believed Obama to be the antichrist of the last days (he’s obviously not the first). Many people felt it right away. Some people mocked the idea, saying “Little old Obama? He’s just from Hawaii (KENYA!), and an idiot, and powerless.” Well, he is an idiot, but he’s certainly a devil worshiper. There is not a single Godly thing that he is not at odds with that I can name.

But, people miss a far greater point. THE Antichrist doesn’t get zapped to Earth someday by miraculous power. He’s going to be a normal human being. And he’s also not going to be a baby. Ergo, the antichrist doesn’t start out with all of the power (literal or political), but will gradually build up to it, over his lifetime (just like Obama). I feel pretty confident that Obama fits the bill, but hey, he may mere by AN antichrist and not THE antichrist.

My prediction: He gets ousted in an upcoming election; tries to make himself king, fails; runs to Europe; leads or dominates a global group (like the U.N.; and...the rest I’m not saying (read George Washington’s vision). Then, the book of Revelation is pretty clear on what happens next.

I had to log in just to tell you THANK YOU. I have never herd of such a site, and I am immensely grateful for you posting that. I have had a friend who has been asking me to help him understand economics for some time, but I’m not able to explain everything I know. Now he can watch the videos on that site and learn at his own pace! Thanks again.

(Ironically, he stopped going to College because he didn’t want to pay tens of thousands of dollars for that “increasingly worthless piece of paper.” I feel the same way, now, although years ago, I did get two of them, lol).

I’ll take, “The 17th Amendment and The Apportionment Act of 1911,” for $1,000, Alex.

Thank you for the ping Ms. Abigail, I appreciate them all, even if I forget to give credit where it’s due. I appreciate all of your pings over these last few years, may God help us all, in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

Listen to central_va, Melas, as (s?)he is correct. Prior to the start of the war, only about 25% of the populations of the Southern states were pro-secession IIRC. Once the initial fighting began, and the people saw what was at stake, in real world terms, the south was galvanized against the murderous tyranny. Things happen at an exponential rate. At first it seems the smoldering so slow that nothing is happening, then there’s the fire.

There’s only two classes of people. The criminals with a badge, and the criminals without one.

You bring up some very good points. Unfortunately no matter how well intentioned, subsidies take money from one person and give it to another, and there’s no basis for them in the Constitution. The Depression was a giant debacle and people look at it far differently, depending on whether they were the moochers or the moochees.

Both my parents come from farming stock, and different sides of the country. Dad was around for the depression, mom a little after, but her mother and grandmother often spoke of the depression. Ergo, I have no first hand experience, but both sides of my family hated the policies instituted during the Depression (Dad is conservative, mom’s mom is an old school Democrat, more conservative than most Republicans, but somewhat liberal).
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RE: “We haven’t had a good drought in Iowa for several years, LUCK or MGT? When my parents farmed, it was more years of bad crop than good.”

It may be neither, directly. “Geoengineering” as they call it, is widely practiced. Here in the local paper this spring, there was a report of how much our agricultural county, and the next county over, budget for cloud seeding (altering weather to make rain, if you didn’t know), as well as how much the state kicks in. In all the amount we paid was IIRC around 300k each year (75k from each county, and the other 150k from the state). Ironically last year this area was considered a FEMA flood zone, and a few people’s homes were damaged. The paper also mentioned that the clouds are seeded each and every year, regardless of precipitation, I guess just in case. Makes me wonder why the clouds had to be seeded (at our expense) last year in the first place.

Link please! Oh, and one with a $500 Billion figure, since it is after all a “majority.”

“you bore me.” Typical libspeak for...”I can’t prove my lies, so now I’m going to pout, why are you being so unfair. Can’t I just say whatever I want!?!!? Waaaaaa!!!!”

Back it *up.

Ok, I’ll bite.

You said “The majority of the money in the farm bill is for food stamps.”

Back it of. Show me a link that explains more than $500 BILLION dollars going to food stamps. I’m sure you can find one fast. And you’re still the BOLD faced liar.

The solution to all of this nonsense is a slashing of government at all levels back to its Constitutional role. The increasing entitlement mentality to OPM is getting out of the realm of sanity.

The fact is, that food is NOT cheap. Yes, the U.S. it is cheaper than other places in the world, but it is being held at an artificially cheap cost through various types of subsidies, incentives to mega corps that produce increasing low quality food, increasing regulation on small farmers to benefit the mega corporations that don’t pay inheritance taxes and who get an increased market share, and an artificially strong dollar. At some point the musical chairs game of fiat money and (more importantly) deficit spending is going to stop. At that point people are going to come to realize that when God stated “In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread,” it didn’t mean by the sweat of someone else’s face. We may not all turn into farmers, per se, but living off of someone else at the point of government robbery won’t stand much longer.

“Democracies are as short in their lives, as they are violent in their deaths.” We ceased to actually be a Constitutional republic 100 years ago, and the wind down is coming to a close. There will be a revival or the final nail in the coffin, but either way, big government never, ever, ever, lasts.