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The FReeper Foxhole -
Dec. 6, 2002

Posted on 12/06/2002 12:33:24 PM PST by Jen

U.S. Military History, Current Events and Veterans Issues

Where Duty, Honor and Country
are acknowledged, affirmed and commemorated.

Our Mission:

The FReeper Foxhole is dedicated to Veterans of our Nation's military forces and to others who are affected in their relationships with Veterans.

We hope to provide an ongoing source of information about issues and problems that are specific to Veterans and resources that are available to Veterans and their families.

In the FReeper Foxhole, Veterans or their family members should feel free to address their specific circumstances or whatever issues concern them in an atmosphere of peace, understanding, brotherhood and support.

Veterans History Project
Keeps War Memories Alive

There are over 19 million veterans living in the U.S. today. With each is a personal story of battles fought, victories and defeats. Each story, though sometimes heartbreaking, is full of love, dedication and patriotism.



War correspondent May Craig
interviews a soldier, ca. 1945.


That's how Peter Bartis describes his work with the Veterans History Project. The grassroots effort that began two years ago -- and has now caught fire -- is hoping to keep those memories alive.

Bartis, a senior program officer for the project, said that each day some 1,500 U.S. veterans die -- and with them a treasured part of the nation's past. "These are some of the most amazing stories; when you put them all together you get a story of the nation," he said.

Over the past year alone, the project's staff of 16 has already collected more than 14,000 items, such as letters and other memoirs, and video and audiotape interviews.

"We're all just blown away by these stories," he said. "The information has been very rich, it's been emotional, and it's very heartening to listen to the stories, to learn how and why they (veterans) joined, their war-time experience."

With the idea that future generations could learn from the histories of the nation's veterans, the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress, began the effort to collect video and audio recordings of personal histories and testimonials of American war veterans -- men, women, civilians who served in World Wars I and II, and the Korean, Vietnam and Persian Gulf wars. The center needs contributions of civilian volunteers, support staff, and war industry workers also.

Bartis said the amount of regular mail and the number of e-mails and phone calls vary from day to day, "but the response to this project has been enormous." "We get to know a lot of these people personally. That's the fun part," he said. Aside from the thousands of items received from everyday Americans each year, Bartis said the project has gained tremendous support from the corporate community as well.

The Veterans History Project's official Web site lists more than 50 national partners and support organizations from every state. The military services contribute through offices such as the Army's U.S. Center of Military History and the Naval and Marine Corps Historical centers, as well as DoD's official committee commemorating the 50th Korean War anniversary. Major national veterans associations are well-represented also.

"This is not our project or the library's project. This is the nation's project," Bartis said. "We want people of all walks of life to feel ownership of this project."

Learn more about the Veterans History Project.



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To: SAMWolf
lol!
361 posted on 12/06/2002 6:57:53 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: error99
I sure will! thanks for coming by to let me know.:)
362 posted on 12/06/2002 6:58:53 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Hi Victoria, I'm jumping all around here, sorry I missed you first time around.
363 posted on 12/06/2002 7:00:46 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: AntiJen; SAMWolf; All

364 posted on 12/06/2002 7:00:56 PM PST by SpookBrat
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To: SpookBrat
HI Spooky.
365 posted on 12/06/2002 7:01:43 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: Darksheare
My husband was telling me about standing watch through the night in Washington State. It was so cold he use to get three cups of coffee. One to drink and one to pour over each foot! :)
366 posted on 12/06/2002 7:07:34 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: SpookBrat
Hi spooky! Good seeing you!
367 posted on 12/06/2002 7:09:26 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: 185JHP
Would you like to share some of your memories with us?
368 posted on 12/06/2002 7:12:32 PM PST by Jen
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To: cavtrooper21
ROFL...I was never in the service but I was in Naval JROTC when I was in High School (I know...it's not real service but bear with me...) In the summer of `82 I got to take a cruise on the USS Connole (FF1056), now decommissioned, out of Rhode Island. We had numerous problems just getting out of port, but the biggest problem occured when we went to test some weapons systems...the first was a torpedo retrieval system of some sort and that went well (why anyone would want to retrieve a torpedo is beyond me...) The second was the ASROC system, Anti-Submarine Rocket, I think it stood for, anyhow, it was an 8 tube monstrosity mounted just forward of the bridge. When they went to test it, they had a little trouble aiming it...you see, it kept turning around and pointing at the bridge...they tried 3 or 4 times and eventually scrubbed the test. I love it when a plan comes together...
369 posted on 12/06/2002 7:16:14 PM PST by Preech1
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To: Preech1
Now you know why she was decommissioned. LOL!
370 posted on 12/06/2002 7:18:59 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: LasVegasMac
Hi Mac! What service were you in when you were on active duty? Do you work at Nellis now?

My last few years in the AF were bad for me and after I retired, I wanted nothing to do with the military. I thank FR and especially the USO Canteen FReeper Style for helping me recover from those bad experiences and to start thinking positively about my whole military experience - and not just dwelling on the bad part.

The Foxhole is actually a joint effort of several people including SAMWolf and MistyCA who are heavily involved. I just got the honor of posting the first thread! ;-)

Welcome! I'm so glad to meet you.

Jen
371 posted on 12/06/2002 7:22:30 PM PST by Jen
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To: Darksheare
"PMCS my eyelids"

Help with the acronym, please. Is that Partly Mission Capable - Supply? Huh?

372 posted on 12/06/2002 7:24:32 PM PST by Jen
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To: Sir Gawain
Hi there Sir Knight. Hope you'll stick around and protect us fair maidens from the raiding hoardes! hehehe
373 posted on 12/06/2002 7:26:54 PM PST by Jen
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To: AntiJen
Preventative Maintenance, Checks and Services.
374 posted on 12/06/2002 7:27:49 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf
OH! You must be speaking Army instead of Air Force! hehehehe
375 posted on 12/06/2002 7:30:27 PM PST by Jen
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To: MistyCA
You must be incredibly proud....

Oh I am, MistyCA, truly.

Over the years, I've gotten my parents to relate their "war stories" to me. All I can tell you is, neither of them has yet related the truly "intimate" story of their experience in this most worthy public project. For various reasons, Mom and Dad saved that for their kids.

Dad doesn't want to elaborate on his personal experiences in wartime. He'd give you the facts and figures anytime. But there is a personal reaction/experience involved here that we must not question too closely. Having spoken with him on this subject over a couple of decades by now (at least), I gather he never got over the death of beloved comrades in arms. To this day, he continues to hold God "personally" responsible for this terrible loss....

My mother, on the other hand, is not an "intellectual." Instead (IMHO), she has a great gift of intuition, married to common sense. If you were to ask my Mom about the "war stories" she didn't tell in the Veterans History Project, it would have to do with certain Hollywood celebrities. (This kind of stuff rarely gets into the "official" record.....)

Anyhoot, Mom wasn't with a "MASH"-type hospital. She was affiliated with an advanced surgical facility fairly well removed from the front lines. The "MASH" types sent their survivors to her. And she gave them (I am absolutely convinced) superlative care. Some of her patients were Japanese POWs. I gather she didn't have a different standard of professional (humanitarian) care for them -- even though a lot of her "Jap" patients initially thought they were about to be killed by "the enemy," at her hands, no less....)

But being removed from the "front line" was not a survival guarantee, not even for female Navy nurses, who were only there to give care. Mom tells the story of a lieutenant of nurses killed by a Japanese sniper late at night, while on a routine latrine call....

Anyhoot, the best stuff (from the prurient POV maybe!) Mom ever reported was in relation to various Hollywood celebrities that -- to their eternal credit -- stood up and allowed themselves to be counted during WWII. (I wonder if we could muster such a fine contingent of patriots out of present-day Hollywood...).

A lot of the celebrity types were flyers, joined to the various services. Where Mom was, the accent was on Naval flyers. Mom met a whole lot of Hollywood types there -- who were there simply to serve their country, not for purposes of "self-glorification" or self-agrandisement at all.

Of these men, there was one in particular whose company my Mom enjoyed on a fairly regular basis, for as long as these sorts of things last in wartime.

Lest you suppose the worst about my Mom, please let me elaborate. The local nurses were so hot for this guy (MEGA Hollywood star) that the poor man -- being homosexual -- just wanted to spend a peaceful evening with an understanding female -- so as to have a pretext to ditch the ravenous females that were gathering all about him, for assuredly nefarious purposes....

We should listen to our parents. They have such interesting tales to tell.... IMHO, FWIW :^)

376 posted on 12/06/2002 7:32:47 PM PST by betty boop
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To: AntiJen
Roger that.
377 posted on 12/06/2002 7:32:59 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: AntiJen
Nothing smuch, other than my "sea sickness" and the bonding. In the Navy, when you're seasick, you still hae to work, so you need some calories. The only thing I could keep down was chocolate milk, till I got well. People talk about "male bonding." On a Navy ship, in a war zone, it's intense closeness. You find out stuff about people. Creepiness jumps out at you. OTOH some guys will walk through fire to help you.
379 posted on 12/06/2002 7:37:38 PM PST by 185JHP
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To: betty boop
We should listen to our parents. They have such interesting tales to tell....

Amen to that.

380 posted on 12/06/2002 7:37:42 PM PST by SAMWolf
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