Posted on 07/09/2004 12:00:06 AM PDT by snippy_about_it
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On This Day In History
Birthdates which occurred on July 09:
1766 J Schopenhauer,
1802 Thomas Davenport invented 1st coml electric motor
1819 Elias Howe Spencer Mass, invented sewing machine
1856 Nikola Tesla, Croatia, electrical engineer/inventor (Tesla Coil)
1858 Franz Boas anthropologist/linguist (Mind of Primitive Man)
1887 Samuel Eliot Morison historian (Admiral of the Ocean Sea)
1901 Barbara Cartland romance author
1915 David Diamond Rochester NY, composer (Paderewski Prize-1943)
1916 Edward Heath (C) British PM (1970-74)
1927 Ed Ames Malden Mass, actor (Mingo-Daniel Boone)
1929 Hassan II king of Morocco (1961- )
1929 Lee Hazelwood Ok, country singer/songwriter (Summer Wine, Jackson)
1932 Donald Rumsfeld politician (Sec DoD.)
1938 Brian Dennehy Ct, actor (Check is in the Mail, F/X, Cocoon, Ants)
1939 James Hampton Okla City OK, actor (Bugler Dobbs-F Troop)
1939 Richard Roundtree New Rochelle NY, actor (Shaft, Roots)
1943 John H Casper Greenville SC, Col USAF/astronaut (STS-36, sk:STS-50)
1945 Dean R[ay] Koontz, US, sci-fi author
1946 Mitch Mitchell drummer (Jimi Hendrix Experience)
1947 O(renthal) J(ames) Simpson SF, NFL running back (Buf Bills)/actor/murderer
1952 John Tesh Garden City NY, TV host (Entertainment Tonight)
1954 Debbie Sledge Phila, vocalist (Sister Sledge-We are Family)
1955 Jimmy Smits NYC, actor (Victor-LA Law, Running Scared, Believers)
1956 Tom Hanks Concord, Calif, actor (Bossom Buddies, Big, Applo 13, Saving Pvt. Ryan...)
1957 Kelly McGillis Newport Beach Ca, actress (Top Gun, Accused, Witness)
1976 Fred Aaron Savage Ill, actor (Kevin-Wonder Years, Vice Versa)
free dixie,sw
Topic shift...discovered some of your comments on a past thread here at FR.
ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS - the dark underside of the Ghost Fleet deal
Navy Times...Ghost Fleet case heads to court in July
A soap opera for yours truly...
Spent a good chunk of coin and time with MARAD over the phone.
At least I did get an invite to come down....the James Annex command offered me a boatride out to TAO-191's berth for a photo op.
I did learn that TAO-191 was in good shape..although there was an issue with engine vibration and shafts.
TAO-191 was a done deal sale to Chile....13 Million I think... a steal/bargain..whatever..then the deal collpased.
Maybe the **Money from NY blocked that via Congress.
The fine print says TAO-191 must be completed in U.S...then can be sold to a NATO org nation.
Guess Able UK was going to go that route.
Was glad when I learned of the Chile sale...
US Isherwood DD-520 went to Peru in the early 60's..plucky can stayed around in service till early 80's....a good chunk of time for a Tin can from WW-2.
400 Million for Isherwood and Eckford....wondering if MARAD is going to get investigated over this..or if the Environmental pressure concerning the other rusting hulks on the James will force the Navy/Gov to do whatever it takes...** alter legislation to be rid of the problem.....eat the 400 Million loss.
Some of the other Kaiser oilers have been decommisioned....some require upgrade to be returned to active status.
Then the debate...ie..why are US Warships putting into Terror nation ports for refueling?..ie.Cole/Yemen.
Did some googling..guess the Navy is not ready to say there is a oiler shortage for the fleets.
Allthought they do comment on heavy lift capability shortage.
Am hopeing TAO 191 will be finished for sale to someone.
I do not beleive TAO 191 is double hulled..I think a few Kaisers in service presently are....3?...Rappahanock....others.
I've read the Air Force only took the mission to keep the Navy from having a reason to get its own heavy bombers.
The various Armed Forces are sure protective of what they consider "their turf"
Morning Aeronaut
Morning E.G.C. Cloudy this morning but don't think we'll get any rain.
Morning! alfa6 is a sleepy head!
Hi Sam.
Not just the mining, but the majority of the Japanese Merchant Shipping was sunk, for a nation that depeneded on imports for almost everything, that was disasterous. The firebombing of cities killed and injured more people than the atomic bombs. Late in the war carrier groups were launching raids on the mainland in addition to the strategic bombing.
Yet the Japanese military was willing to continue fighting. It took the atomic bombs to convince them there was no alternative to surrender.
Morning Mayor. Good sermon this morning.
Good Morning PE.
We also have too many people who try to apply today's standards to past events without any knowledge of what the times were like.
Morning Feather.
WOW! I learn something new every day.
Morning CholeraJoe. I think all services tend to be single-minded. I've heard that's one of the reasons that the Army ended up with the helocopters, Air Force wasn't really interested.

"Cluster bombs are being used on frontline al Qaeda and Taliban troops to try to kill them is why we're using them, to be perfectly blunt."
"We aren't running out of targets; Afghanistan is."
"The only way to defend against terrorists is to go after the terrorists."
Morning stand watie.
Free Dixie
In 1995 I decommissioned USS San Bernardino (LST-1189) and she was turned over to Chile, renamed Valdevia(?). They ran her hard agound a year or two later. I think she was repaired but I remember reading at the time the damage was pretty significant. They had to use explosives to break her from the rocks.
USNS BENJAMIN ISHERWOOD is one of the two ships in the HENRY J. KAISER - class that has never been finished. The construction of the ship was cancelled on August 15, 1993, when BENJAMIN ISHERWOOD was 95.3% complete. On February 1, 1999, the ship transferred to the Maritime Administration (Marad) and is currently berthed at the James River Reserve Fleet, Fort Eustis, Va.
Originally, the contract for the construction of BENJAMIN ISHERWOOD was awarded to Pennsylvania Shipbuilding Company. This contract was cancelled on August 31, 1989, about one year after the ship was launched. On November 16, 1989, Tampa Shipbuilding Inc., Tampa, Fla., was awarded a new contract to complete the construction of BENJAMIN ISHERWOOD by the Naval Sea Systems Command. During performance of the contract, Tampa and NAVSEA had differing interpretations over responsibility for correction of defects or deficiencies for work performed by Pennsylvania Shipbuilding and concerning the amount of material necessary to complete the ships. Tampa experienced significant financial and performance problems which resulted in Tampa's failure to make progress to meet the T-AO 191 contract delivery date of May 29, 1992. The contract delivery date for BENJAMIN ISHERWOOD was extended to January 31, 1993, but Tampa was again unable to deliver the ship in time.
In 1993, NAVSEA's analysis indicated that transferring the ships to another facility would not add unacceptable cost or schedule delays, and that Tampa's continued performance of BENJAMIN ISHERWOOD's contract was not essential to the national defense. The ship was finally cancelled on August 15, 1993, and was stricken from the Navy list on December 29, 1997.
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