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To: nobdysfool
That God has chosen, before the foundation of the world, those whom He will save

Change "has chosen" to "knows" and "He will", to "will be saved", you will then have it right. Come on boy get with the program. :)

BigMack

19 posted on 09/07/2003 7:52:23 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Prov. 9:7-8)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Hi Mack. Are you advocating simple foreknowledge? I would submit that God's knowledge of His elect is much more intimate. Recall how God knew the Psalmist in the womb. He knows His sheep and His sheep respond to His voice. Also recall the basis upon which the goats are dispatched to judgement, "I never knew you."
20 posted on 09/07/2003 7:57:55 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; RochesterFan; Frumanchu; drstevej
Change "has chosen" to "knows" and "He will", to "will be saved", you will then have it right. Come on boy get with the program. :) BigMack

Sorry, no can do...

Rom 9:12-24 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. (13) As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. (14) What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. (15) For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. (16) So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. (17) For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. (18) Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. (19) Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? (20) Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? (21) Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? (22) What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: (23) And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, (24) Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

My Bible says He did chose, not just "know", and He did decide whom He would save, not just let them decide for themselves.

24 posted on 09/07/2003 8:14:09 PM PDT by nobdysfool (All men are born Arminians...the Christian ones that grow up become Calvinists...)
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To: nobdysfool
"That God has chosen, before the foundation of the world, those whom He will save.

Change "has chosen" to "knows" and "He will", to "will be saved", you will then have it right. Come on boy get with the program. :)

Notice how you seem to change words to support your "Blasphemous Religion"? Just like ALL Heresy's. They just never seem to get the right words in there. I wonder why? Maybe it's because it will destroy their argument for what they perceive to be "their" truth.

40 posted on 09/07/2003 9:37:45 PM PDT by webber
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