I know this debate is old, but this still deserves to be said, again and again.
To: nobdysfool
I strenuously object to the notion put forward that the "Roman Catholic Christ" is a "false Christ" and is lumped in with cults.
The Catholics can stick up for themselves, no doubt, and if this thread lasts for any length of time, you'll deserve what you get from them.
2 posted on
09/07/2003 6:40:20 PM PDT by
wimpycat
(Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
To: nobdysfool
3 posted on
09/07/2003 6:58:18 PM PDT by
Gamecock
(Why TULIP? Because the Bible teaches it as the inspired word of The One Holy Sovereign God!)
To: nobdysfool
"The LORD is patient, not willing that ANY should perish, but "EVERYONE" to come to repentence." 2 Peter 3:9b.
If God "chose" who will be saved and will "not be saved" "Sovereignly, then why did Jesus tell his disciples to "Go into all the world, and preach the gospel to EVERY CREATURE, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you, baptizing them in the name of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost"?
What you're saying is that Jesus told His disciples to do something that would absolutely worthless, waste of time, and even blasphemous since it is God who will choose who is saved, According to "The Gospel According to nobdysfool".
Heretics always choose which parts of the Bible they want to believe and those parts that they "Sovereignly" decide not to believe because it destroys their "religion".
5 posted on
09/07/2003 7:00:32 PM PDT by
webber
To: nobdysfool
Ah yes, the Calvinist schoolyard bullies once again feel the need to proclaim "My Christ is better than your Christ."
Sad that they actually think this is the "gospel."
To: nobdysfool; Hermann the Cherusker
The Christ of the Roman Catholics can not save sinners without their own good works and the intercession of priests. He is not the Christ of the Bible. We are not deceived by this Christ. He is a false Christ.This is the most idiotic statement and anti-Catholic bucnh of h****sh*t I've read recently. This man knows nothing of Catholic theology.
63 posted on
09/08/2003 7:01:31 AM PDT by
ThomasMore
(Pax et bonum!)
To: nobdysfool; Corin Stormhands
I just don't get the point of this.
The closest allies of the Reformed and the Presbyterians and some Baptists have always been the other Baptists, the Methodists, and a host of other independent and evangelical Christians who also believe that Scripture is our sole rule of the Christian faith.
I do not understand the effort to equate these groups with false Christs and animus toward Christianity on the part of their closest allies.
It is Germany and France attacking the U.S. In the WWII it would have been Great Britain bombing America.
I simply don't understand what it springs from.
71 posted on
09/08/2003 8:15:59 AM PDT by
xzins
(In the Beginning Was the Word!)
To: nobdysfool
Actually, after reading the article, I must conclude that the author has missed a thing or two:
The sad travisty of the truth which the Arminian calls god is not the true God of the Bible because:
1. This Arminian blasphemy is not truly Omniscient.
2. This Arminian blasphemy is not truly Omnipotent.
He doesn't know and he can't act.
Woody.
You Might Be an Arminian If....
You think that "Calvinism" is arrogant for saying that God elects some and not others, but you think you are really humble for saying that God elected you because He knew you'd think He was a pretty swell dude for offering you a life preserver even though you were only in the shallow end of the pool anyway, and that in your niceness, you'd accept His offer of your own "free will".
78 posted on
09/08/2003 9:14:56 AM PDT by
CCWoody
(Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory,...)
To: nobdysfool; snerkel
Ping to self for later read.
80 posted on
09/08/2003 9:44:55 AM PDT by
snerkel
To: nobdysfool
>>The Christ of the Roman Catholics can not save sinners without their own good works and the intercession of priests.>>
That's like saying YHWH couldn't lead the Israelites out of the Desert without an old man and a staff, or that Christ couldn't feed 5,000 people without seven loaves and two fishes, or that He couldn't make himself known to the Romans without Paul.
Christ can do whatever he wills. He wills us to be a Church, not just a mob of like-minded individuals. You know, the Church even does teach of the "sacrament of desire," by which Christ moves extraordinarily to give the blessing of his sacrament, when one sincerely wishes to receive the sacrament, but there is no-one to administer it to him.
Why do I bother responding to such an ignorant statement? Simply to not let the constant, droning lies of the enemy (meaning Satan, not nobdysfool) be mistaken for the truth by mere repitition.
81 posted on
09/08/2003 10:22:07 AM PDT by
dangus
To: nobdysfool
There is, however, another false Christ who is much more dangerous than the Christ of the cults and the Christ of Roman Catholicism. Matt 16:18
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