A very interesting commentary from a devout catholic who, like me, is waging war against the abuses in the Albany Diocese.
1 posted on
03/12/2003 8:41:44 AM PST by
NYer
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For your discussion.
2 posted on
03/12/2003 8:42:17 AM PST by
NYer
(Kyrie Eleison)
To: NYer
Very interesting. Thanks. I don't think most "traditionalists" have wandered from the church; I think they are still devout Catholics who prefer the Latin Mass (Tridentine) and that is fine, provided they do not turn their back on the Church. The Church allows the Tridentine Mass as an option, provided it is sanctioned by the local Bishop. I think this is a good thing and should be permitted; however, if the Church decided down the road that allowing these Masses jeopardized the faithful and discontinued the permission, we would have no choice but to follow.
Most of these Catholics, and I would imagine Mel Gibson as well, are in communion with Rome. It's when they start going off the deep end ... like saying they don't have to listen to Rome, or that JPII is the one who's schismatic, etc. that they jeopardize their communion.
I pray that one day we will all be together, one body in Christ, worshipping the Lord in the full glory and manner He deserves.
3 posted on
03/12/2003 8:55:51 AM PST by
Gophack
To: NYer
Catholic bump!
5 posted on
03/12/2003 9:44:57 AM PST by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: NYer
It should be noted that Mel Gibson has neither said that he is a schismatic, or made any of their typical pronunciations about the Pope. All this stuff is based on hearsay, and thanks to the NY Times, on a 'sins of the father' type rumor.
Personally, I could care less when it comes to this movie or any of the previous ones he made. If he simply tells the story as it appears in sacred scripture, that is enough.
8 posted on
03/12/2003 10:51:05 AM PST by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: NYer
Nice article.
I also would prefer the Latin Mass, and a change to more conservative, traditional catholicism, where priests call evil what it is.
But I believe the writer is correct, obedience is what we need. Work and obedience. And probably alot of prayer.
Keep up the good fight.
To: NYer
Oh, and I can't wait to see Mr. Gibson's movie. I intend on taking the whole family.
If he read the visions of Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich then he knows that many people reportedly will leave the Church and faith will grow very low. She said it will seem that Catholicism will be nearly snuffed out but God will restore the Church in the sight of all mankind and She will shine like never before.
So I hope Mr. Gibson is and remains obedient to the Church and is there to see the Church gloriously restored. If this all occurs in our lifetime.
To: NYer
Oops! Sorry, I just double posted this!!
15 posted on
03/12/2003 11:50:30 AM PST by
abigail2
To: biblewonk
ping
I'll be sure to keep this in mind for the next time someone tells me Mel Gibson is Catholic.
18 posted on
03/12/2003 12:07:02 PM PST by
newgeezer
(fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
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I forgot to thank you for posting this great article.
29 posted on
03/12/2003 4:03:56 PM PST by
abigail2
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