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Crisis Magazine ^ | 1/17/03 | Deal Hudson

Posted on 01/17/2003 1:55:56 PM PST by Polycarp

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1 posted on 01/17/2003 1:55:57 PM PST by Polycarp
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3 posted on 01/17/2003 1:59:22 PM PST by Polycarp (Satan's Trifecta: 1) Contraception/Sterilization, 2) Abortion/Euthanasia, and 3) Homosexuality)
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4 posted on 01/17/2003 1:59:24 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: Polycarp
The full text of the "Doctrinal Note on Some Questions Regarding the Participation of Catholics in Political Life" can be found here.
5 posted on 01/17/2003 2:01:09 PM PST by Polycarp (Satan's Trifecta: 1) Contraception/Sterilization, 2) Abortion/Euthanasia, and 3) Homosexuality)
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BUMP for our good friends, neighbors and family...the Catholics!
6 posted on 01/17/2003 2:05:45 PM PST by Caipirabob (These tag lines are gonna get me in big trouble soon, I just know it!)
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7 posted on 01/17/2003 2:06:58 PM PST by Gophack
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To: Polycarp
This is indeed Great News. There is nothing in the Catholic religion that doesn't allow Kerry to be President of all the people. He needs to change his heart.
8 posted on 01/17/2003 2:07:19 PM PST by Ann Archy
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To: Polycarp
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9 posted on 01/17/2003 2:07:49 PM PST by Desdemona (Pitchers and Catchers report in 28 days.)
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To: Polycarp
I am not a ROMAN catholic... but this sounds rather good for every one of us.
My question to you, Roman Catholic brother... is "Are there any kind of teeth in this?"

I am not totally plussed with the "we will handle this in our own way according to the magisterium" response we have been hearing on other issues. I wish we could expect to see some public EXCOMMUNICATION of laity, and DEFROCKING (as we protestants call it in some circles) of KILLER PRIESTS posing as Catholics...

Of course, I am not holding my breath, but maybe, JUST maybe... the Vatican is REALLY growing some teeth over the moral issues of it's flock... particularly the wolves, who are merely POSING as Christians/Catholics...

It will be interesting to see the "fallout" from this announcement amongst what you call your "apostate" crowd...

I am thankful that John Paul saw fit to put this out for ALL of us to consider... Fact is, Jesus may not be pleased with folks who claim to love him, while killing innocents, for political gain... and moral indecency...

Good stuff... hope it impacts, FAST and HARD...

10 posted on 01/17/2003 2:08:25 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (clintonsgotusbytheballs?)
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To: Polycarp
If they excommunicate all of the CINO's, Polycarp, it will just be you and the pope left (and I'm not sure about him).
11 posted on 01/17/2003 2:11:13 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: Polycarp
You mean Catholic politicians might actually have to pay attention to that whole "Thou Shalt Not Steal" thingy?

That would be refreshing indeed.

L

12 posted on 01/17/2003 2:11:50 PM PST by Lurker (One is either free or not free.)
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To: Polycarp
I'm not Catholic, but I understand the power of one voice speaking for many. And especially when that voice speaks God's truths.

Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

13 posted on 01/17/2003 2:14:54 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: Robert_Paulson2
"Are there any kind of teeth in this?"

We at the Catholic Family Association of America are working on getting a private audience with the Pope to present

1)the excommunication petition, to Excommunicate Culture of Death "Catholics" and

2) a plea to change canon law so that politicians who vote to expand/fund abortions or support the homosexual agenda are automatically excommunicated.

If you have not yet signed the excommunication petition, its not too late!

And please keep our efforts in your prayers, especially that our private audience with the Pope is secured and schedulued soon, to coincide with these Vatican directives.

--Dr. Brian Kopp (Polycarp),
Vice President,
Catholic Family Association of America

Here is our request:

WHEREFORE, Plaintiffs request the following relief:

A. That Pope John Paul II, Supreme Pontiff of the Catholic Church take jurisdiction of this petition.

B. That Canon 1398 be changed to read: "A person who deliberately enables an abortion or euthanization incurs a latae sententiae excommunication. An elected or appointed official who votes for legislation enabling abortion or euthanasia or who publicly propagandizes for or promotes abortion or euthanasia incurs a latae sententiae excommunication."

C. That he issue to the bishops specific directives concerning the implementation and enforcement of interdiction and excommunication for public promoters of abortion, euthanasia and other forms of direct attack upon life.

D. That he publicly order Defendants to:
1. Refrain from any act or statement which enables, supports or condones abortion, euthanasia and other
forms of direct attack upon life.
2. Publicly repent and retract their errors and promise no further acts and/or statements
which enable, support or condone abortion, euthanasia and other forms of direct attack upon life.
3. Refrain from reception of the sacrament of Eucharist until the above orders have been followed.

E. That he publicly declare that Defendants' acts and/or statements as alleged are:
1. Contrary to and inimical to the faith of the Catholic Church ;
2. A scandal to the Mystical Body of Christ, the faithful of the Catholic Church ; and
3. A sacrilege to the Real Body and Blood of Jesus Christ when Defendants receive
the sacrament of the Eucharist.

F. In the event that any Defendant fails to follow any of the above orders to publicly
excommunicate him or her from the Catholic Church .

Dated at (to be implemented upon closing of the signatory phase)

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14 posted on 01/17/2003 2:17:24 PM PST by Polycarp (Satan's Trifecta: 1) Contraception/Sterilization, 2) Abortion/Euthanasia, and 3) Homosexuality)
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15 posted on 01/17/2003 2:22:19 PM PST by GrandMoM
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I wish we could expect to see some public EXCOMMUNICATION of laity, and DEFROCKING (as we protestants call it in some circles) of KILLER PRIESTS posing as Catholics...

From your lips (fingertips) to God's ears, I too pray.

16 posted on 01/17/2003 2:23:52 PM PST by Polycarp (Satan's Trifecta: 1) Contraception/Sterilization, 2) Abortion/Euthanasia, and 3) Homosexuality)
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To: Polycarp
I know the Pope is a great guy and all. But I have trouble remembering a time when people actually did what the Pope recommends on anything.

Including Catholics.

17 posted on 01/17/2003 2:28:16 PM PST by toast
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To: toast
I have trouble remembering a time when people actually did what the Pope recommends on anything.

You don't know very many real Catholics, that's all.

18 posted on 01/17/2003 2:37:00 PM PST by Polycarp (Satan's Trifecta: 1) Contraception/Sterilization, 2) Abortion/Euthanasia, and 3) Homosexuality)
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To: Polycarp
You don't know very many real Catholics, that's all.

That and a short memory. Mother Theresa wasn't exactly a rebel.

19 posted on 01/17/2003 2:51:09 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: Polycarp
http://www.cathfam.org/cfexcom/form.html

I the plaintiff form is pretty straightforward and a LOT of freepers would agree about confronting the issue of alleged catholics, who support abominations:
Kennedy, Daschle, Gray Davis (who knew?), Durbin et al...

I saw it was left open for protestant participation as well...

How may signatories do you have already?
Any indications as to it being presented any time soon?

Any of John Paul's potential successors up to the task, if he is unable to continue? You know, the "non-cardinal bernaxxxx" types?
20 posted on 01/17/2003 3:10:28 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (clintonsgotusbytheballs?)
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