Dr. Judith Reisman, Advises Catholic Church to Sue the Sex Experts for Medical Malpractice

Catholic C itizens of Illinois ^

[Siobhan]

Yes, I am aware of the growth of Archbishop Hickey into Cardinal Hickey. I would love to lift up the flame of hope for such a transformation in Cardinal McCarrick, but I cannot in all truth. I am not going to post sordid details, but I will assert that Bishop McCarrick puts the care of the souls of the faithful a distant last place after protecting the club of clergy. I seriously doubt we will ever see McCarrick pull the plug on any priest who is in a homosexual relationship with another priest or another man. As far as vigorously representing the Magisterium in his dealings with those in Washington, don't count on it. He may issue little press releases, but he will not carry the flag as a defender of the faith, perhaps a handkerchief, but definitely not the flag.

[Jael]

They didn't rely on it. You know that. They were sodomites covering up for other sodomites.

[Desdemona]

They didn't rely on it. You know that. They were sodomites covering up for other sodomites.

Do you have specifics to back up this claim other than Bernardin? Mahoney wouldn't surprise me, but I guarantee you the evidence is gone.

According to all literature and reports, your claims are not correct. At least not overall. The subculture developed, but was probably hidden in the beginning. And it certainly was never universal.

[heyheyhey]

The churches spoke in a more unified voice when they were emphaic about their distinctions from one another.

That was before they fashioned the golden calf of PC ;-)

[BlackElk]

Ping for later

[saradippity]

Some great information in the original article. We,out here, are going to need to be armed with all the facts for what's coming down the pike. Pray for our good priests that they remain steadfast. Keep the Faith!!

[Jael]

There are Catholic groups that have exposed such. I would have to look around for the website. I would also recommend "Goodbye Good Men."

[Desdemona]

I would also recommend "Goodbye Good Men."

I've read it.

[saradippity]

Article is full of lots of facts pertinent to the present scandal.

One of you had a comment in one of your posts on another thread that I appreciated. You can't kill what you can't see.

It should be foremost in our thinking as we hope for an end to this mess. Each day we learn more and more about the "support" groups that provide money and power and direction to those errant bishops. If we don't get to the roots,just like weeds they will be back,choking the Truth,which will have its roots even deeper in the heart of the Church.

One of the "gems" in this article is the identification of one of the bishops' appointments to the "Citizens Committee of Abuse". I knew about Panneta and Bennet but to find this McHugh character's background is proof positive that the bad bishops and cardinals had absolutely no intention of cleaning up this scandal. No,they just intended to bury it deeper.

Oh,for the names of those persons who sat on the appointment committee.

[Desdemona]

There are Catholic groups that have exposed such.

If one of those groups was Voice of the Faithful, ignore them. They're up to no good. The Church and the flock is NOT their primary concern.

[Jael]

I can't remember who it was. But whoever it was had simply copied a priest homosexual website and email list. It was exposing those sodomites.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

The words "Judith Reisman" and "facts" don't belong in the same sentence. You'll embarrass yourself if you rely on her.

[Desdemona]

Okay. We all admit that there is a group of priests out there doing really sinful and anti-Catholic things and covering for each other (and they all need to go), but where are you getting the over-all main cover-up?

[Jael]

Over all? Because of the number of sodomite priest moved around by Bishops. Because the Pope rejected the Dallas Plan. Because they covered up the sin.

[saradippity]

Unfortunately,I think I am quite a bit older than you and everything Reissman has said about Kinsey was already in the "now pulled" psychology and sociology textbooks of the late fifties,very early sixties.The Foundations made sure that researchers,whom they funded,all "discovered" the untruths that would serve their purposes.

I returned to get my degree in the late sixties,and was constantly questiioning the "profs" about what happened to the "facts",I had read not even five years previously. I was a "favorite" student!!

[Desdemona]

Because the Pope rejected the Dallas Plan.

The Dallas plan was rejected because it was full of holes. The bishops exempted themselves. Rome objected to that as they should have. There was a whole lot more to it, too, like no protection for those falsely accused. The Vatican sealed up the holes. And there were a lot of them.

The moving of sodomite priests was, admittedly, bad decision making. Although, there really were not more that a handful left by the time the records were opened almost everywhere but Boston.

Honestly, a lot of us DID know about it long before it was published. We just kept it quiet because we knew the whole affair would be exploited with the purpose of destroying and belittling the church. THAT was prophetic.

[saradippity]

You are thinking of a site called "St Sebastion's Angels",discovered by a Catholic group called Roman Catholic Faithful. A man named Steven Brady is the founder.

Jael,it may seem to you,as at times,it seems to me,that the entire Church hierarchy is tainted and involved in this current scandal,that is not true. I have come to believe that the top knows that there is an infestation from some place but until they can "smoke" them out of their hiding places, a quick clean-up will do nothing to eliminate the source and roots of the problem and would consequently be only a quick fix.

Like a cancer that has metastisized,if you don't excise the primary tumor the cancer will continue to spread. Just keep connecting the dots and we may save Christianity and western Civilization even yet.

[RobbyS]

I found it interesting that the press pretty much ignored the homosexual angle of the case where the two boys clubbed their father to death. Never mind that the adult who was cleared of the murder was the lover of the victim and had had sex with the boys, one of whom was about age 10. Never have I heard the word "pedophile" used in this case.

[Desdemona]

Robby, there is no end to what amazes me about selective reporting - of all sorts. In fact, it's giving me a headache.

[RobbyS]

I took psychology classes in the '50s, and recently I went to the Encyclopedia Americana article on homosexuality for the 1953 edition. Sure enough, it went along with what I had been taught in college. Virtually all of it has since been repudiated by the psychologists. Looks like they read the stars wrong or something :-).