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Posted on 12/21/2002 7:10:11 AM PST by drstevej

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Ex.24
15 And Moses went up into the mount, and a cloud covered the mount.

16 And the glory of the LORD abode upon mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days: and the seventh day he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud.

17 And the sight of the glory of the LORD was LIKE devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.

18 And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.

Ex.19
17 And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with God; and they stood at the nether part of the mount.

18 And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof scended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.

Deut 4
10 Specially the day that thou stoodest before the LORD thy God in Horeb, when the LORD said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children.

11 And ye came near and stood under the mountain; and the mountain burned with fire unto the midst of heaven, with darkness, clouds, and thick darkness.

12 And the LORD spake unto you out of the midst of the fire: ye heard the voice of the words, but saw no similitude; only ye heard a voice.

13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

14 And the LORD commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it.

15 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:

24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.

29 But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.

30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;

31 (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;) he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.

32 For ask now of the days that are past, which were before thee, since the day that God created man upon the earth, and ask from the one side of heaven unto the other, whether there hath been any such thing as this great thing is, or hath been heard like it?

33 Did ever people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live?

36 Out of heaven he made thee to hear his voice, that he might instruct thee: and upon earth he shewed thee his great fire; and thou heardest his words out of the midst of the fire.

Deut. 5:
4 The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,

MATT 3
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Now if the Lord baptized you with the HOLY GHOST and with FIRE! The feeling of the Burning in the bosom is the witness of the presents of the Holy Ghost.

601 posted on 12/31/2002 10:21:30 AM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
The feeling of the Burning in the bosom is the witness of the presents of the Holy Ghost.

Nope. The fruit of the Spirit is. Jesus said so, this I know, for the Bible tells me so.

602 posted on 12/31/2002 11:18:38 AM PST by JesseShurun
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To: T. P. Pole
***Define testifying moment.***

I have no idea what this term means to you. How can I therefore answer your question.
603 posted on 12/31/2002 11:37:50 AM PST by drstevej
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To: restornu
***Steve if you were filled with the Holy Ghost, please tell me how would you know?***

The fruit of the Spirit is exhibited in one's life.
604 posted on 12/31/2002 11:39:55 AM PST by drstevej
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To: JesseShurun
Yes Jesus loves me
Yes Jesus loves me
Yes Jesus loves me
For the Bible tells me so!

Your not in kindergarden any more Jesse! Now it is time for you to have your own testimony! The Bible is like training wheels but there comes a time you have to know on your own!

Until you have a conversion you are living off of someone else testimony!

605 posted on 12/31/2002 11:42:56 AM PST by restornu
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To: drstevej
The fruit of the Spirit is exhibited in one's life.

***

By Their fuits ye shall know them! That is a by product of doing WORKS in the Name of the Lord!

Being filled with the Holy Ghost is like the Spirit of God which is like a fire burning!

Acts 2
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

John 14
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

1King 19
12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.

John 16
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

606 posted on 12/31/2002 12:12:13 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
The Bible is like training wheels but there comes a time you have to know on your own!

And if Christianity is a crutch for the lame, then let me be lame!!

My lame I will make my remnant, saith the Lord, (for the Bible tells me so!)

So, I should ignore God's Word and listen to myself! Oy vey.

607 posted on 12/31/2002 12:25:03 PM PST by JesseShurun
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To: JesseShurun
And if Christianity is a crutch for the lame, then let me be lame!!

My lame I will make my remnant, saith the Lord (for the Bible tells me so!)

Were is that verse is that in the Bible?

608 posted on 12/31/2002 12:58:23 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
***The Bible is like training wheels but there comes a time you have to know on your own!***

And I suppose you no longer need the training wheels of the Bible since you have the geiger counter of the LDS Holy Spirit in your bosom.
609 posted on 12/31/2002 12:59:22 PM PST by drstevej
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To: restornu
Micah 4:7
610 posted on 12/31/2002 1:07:06 PM PST by JesseShurun
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To: restornu
In that day," says Yahweh,
"I will assemble that which is lame,
And I will gather that which is driven away,
And that which I have afflicted;
7 And I will make that which was lame a remnant,
And that which was cast far off a strong nation:

611 posted on 12/31/2002 1:12:24 PM PST by JesseShurun
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To: restornu
Being filled with the Holy Ghost is like the Spirit of God which is like a fire burning!

Rest......

You didn't see THIS in ANY of the things I posted in answer to your question.



You MISSED a bunch more about FIRE!!!
 
 
Acts 2:3-4
 3.  They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each
of them.
 4.  All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues  as the
Spirit enabled them.
 
(Do you speak in tongues???)
 
 
 
1 Corinthians 3:11-16
 11.  For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus
Christ.
 12.  If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or
straw,
 13.  his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be
revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work.
 14.  If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward.
 15.  If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one
escaping through the flames.
 16.  Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in
you?
 
Matthew 3:10-12
 10.  The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good
fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.
 11.  "I baptize you with  water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more
powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy
Spirit and with fire.
 12.  His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his
wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire."
 
Matthew 5:22
 22.  But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment.
Again, anyone who says to his brother, `Raca, ' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But
anyone who says, `You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
 
Matthew 6:30
 30.  If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is
thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
 
Matthew 7:19
 19.  Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
 
Matthew 13:40
 40.  "As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age.
 
Matthew 13:42
 42.  They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and
gnashing of teeth.
 
Matthew 17:15
 15.  "Lord, have mercy on my son," he said. "He has seizures and is suffering greatly. He
often falls into the fire or into the water.
 
Matthew 18:8-9
 8.  If your hand or your foot causes you to sin cut it off and throw it away. It is better for
you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown
into eternal fire.
 9.  And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you
to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
 
Matthew 25:41
 41.  "Then he will say to those on his left, `Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the
eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
 
Mark 9:43-49
 43.  If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than
with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.
 45.  And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled
than to have two feet and be thrown into hell.
 47.  And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the
kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell,
 48.  where "`their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.'
 49.  Everyone will be salted with fire.
 
Mark 14:54
 54.  Peter followed him at a distance, right into the courtyard of the high priest. There he
sat with the guards and warmed himself at the fire.
 
Luke 3:16-17
 16.  John answered them all, "I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will
come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the
Holy Spirit and with fire.
 17.  His winnowing fork is in his hand to clear his threshing floor and to gather the wheat
into his barn, but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."
 
Luke 9:54
 54.  When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, "Lord, do you want us to
call fire down from heaven to destroy them ?"
 
Luke 12:28
 28.  If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today, and tomorrow is
thrown into the fire, how much more will he clothe you, O you of little faith!
 
Luke 12:49
 49.  "I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!
 
Luke 16:24
 24.  So he called to him, `Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the
tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
 
Luke 17:29
 29.  But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed
them all.
 
John 15:6
 6.  If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers;
such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.
 
John 21:9
 9.  When they landed, they saw a fire of burning coals there with fish on it, and some
bread.
 
Acts 2:19
 19.  I will show wonders in the heaven above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire
and billows of smoke.
 
Acts 28:2-5
 2.  The islanders showed us unusual kindness. They built a fire and welcomed us all
because it was raining and cold.
 3.  Paul gathered a pile of brushwood and, as he put it on the fire, a viper, driven out by
the heat, fastened itself on his hand.
 4.  When the islanders saw the snake hanging from his hand, they said to each other,
"This man must be a murderer; for though he escaped from the sea, Justice has not
allowed him to live."
 5.  But Paul shook the snake off into the fire and suffered no ill effects.
 
1 Thessalonians 5:19
 19.  Do not put out the Spirit's fire;
 
2 Thessalonians 1:6-7
 6.  God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you
 7.  and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the
Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels.
 
Hebrews 1:7
 7.  In speaking of the angels he says, "He makes his angels winds, his servants flames of
fire."
 
Hebrews 10:26-27
 26.  If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth,
no sacrifice for sins is left,
 27.  but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the
enemies of God.
 
Hebrews 12:18
 18.  You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire;
to darkness, gloom and storm;
 
Hebrews 12:28-29
 28.  Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be
thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe,
 29.  for our "God is a consuming fire."
 
James 3:5-6
 5.  Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider
what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark.
 6.  The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the
whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.
 
James 5:3
 3.  Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat
your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days.
 
1 Peter 1:7
7.  These have come so that your faith--of greater worth than gold, which perishes even
though refined by fire--may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory and honor
when Jesus Christ is revealed.
 
2 Peter 3:7
 7.  By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for
the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
 
2 Peter 3:10-12
 10.  But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar;
the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.
 11.  Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be?
You ought to live holy and godly lives
 12.  as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.  That day will bring
about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.
 
Jude 1:7
 7.  In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves
up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the
punishment of eternal fire.
 
Jude 1:22-23
 22.  Be merciful to those who doubt;
 23.  snatch others from the fire and save them; to others show mercy, mixed with
fear--hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.
 
Revelation 1:14
 14.  His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like
blazing fire.
 
Revelation 2:18
 18.  "To the angel of the church in Thyatira write:   These are the words of the Son of
God, whose eyes are like blazing fire and whose feet are like burnished bronze.
 
Revelation 3:18
 18.  I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and
white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on
your eyes, so you can see.
 
Revelation 8:5
 5.  Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the
earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake.
 
Revelation 8:7
 7.  The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood,
and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the
trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up. 
 
Revelation 9:17-18
 17.  The horses and riders I saw in my vision looked like this: Their breastplates were
fiery red, dark blue, and yellow as sulfur. The heads of the horses resembled the heads of
lions, and out of their mouths came fire, smoke and sulfur.
 18.  A third of mankind was killed by the three plagues of fire, smoke and sulfur that
came out of their mouths.
 
Revelation 11:5
 5.  If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies.
This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die.
 
Revelation 13:13
 13.  And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from
heaven to earth in full view of men.
 
Revelation 14:18
 18.  Still another angel, who had charge of the fire, came from the altar and called in a
loud voice to him who had the sharp sickle, "Take your sharp sickle and gather the
clusters of grapes from the earth's vine, because its grapes are ripe."
 
Revelation 15:2
 2.  And I saw what looked like a sea of glass mixed with fire and, standing beside the sea,
those who had been victorious over the beast and his image and over the number of his
name. They held harps given them by God
 
Revelation 16:8
 8.  The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was given power to
scorch people with fire.
 
Revelation 17:16
 16.  The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to
ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
 
Revelation 18:8
 8.  Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her: death, mourning and famine. She
will be consumed by fire, for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.
 
Revelation 19:12
 12.  His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name
written on him that no one knows but he himself.
 
Revelation 20:9
 9.  They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's
people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
 
Revelation 20:14-15
 14.  Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second
death.
 15.  If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the
lake of fire.

612 posted on 12/31/2002 1:26:59 PM PST by Elsie
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To: JesseShurun; White Mountain; CubicleGuy; Utah Girl; pseudogratix; rising tide; Grig
Micah 4:7

In that day," says Yahweh,
"I will assemble that which is lame,
And I will gather that which is driven away,
And that which I have afflicted;

***

Micah 4:7 (KJV)
And I will make her that halted a remnant,
and her that was cast far off a strong nation:
and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion
from henceforth, even for ever.

***

SOUNDS MORE LIKE
Micah 4:6
In that day, saith the LORD,
will I assemble her that *halteth,
and I will gather her that is driven out,
and her that I have afflicted;

(*HALT:To proceed or act with uncertainty or indecision; waver)

Sorry, but your excuse is lame:)

613 posted on 12/31/2002 1:28:40 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
Don't make me take my Hebrew belt off young lady. Use a Strong's or better yet, start studying the real Word of God.
614 posted on 12/31/2002 1:31:27 PM PST by JesseShurun
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To: restornu
Three licks.

Strong's Number: 06760 Browse Lexicon Original Word Word Origin [lc a primitive root: probably to curve Transliterated Word TDNT Entry Tsala` TWOT - 1925 Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech tsaw-lah' Verb Definition to limp, be lame (Qal) to limp to be lame

615 posted on 12/31/2002 1:35:33 PM PST by JesseShurun
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To: restornu

Rest, watch your mouth....

I'm SURE you don't want to set anything on fire!!!


So HALT where you are going, especially knowing that 'halt' describes a physical afflication.......
616 posted on 12/31/2002 1:37:04 PM PST by Elsie
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To: JesseShurun
Strong's Number: 06760 Browse Lexicon Original Word
Word Origin [lc a primitive root: probably to curve
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry Tsala` TWOT - 1925
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech tsaw-lah' Verb
Definition to limp, be lame (Qal) to limp to be lame

 
 
 
"Gopher, Everett?"

617 posted on 12/31/2002 1:47:09 PM PST by Elsie
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To: Elsie
Ah fell into a burnin' ring of far,
Ah went down, down, down,
But the flames got har,
Ring of far,
Ring of far.

.....JC
618 posted on 12/31/2002 1:47:41 PM PST by JesseShurun
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To: Elsie
Elsie it seem to me the bounds of your understanding is limited to the temporal world. You clearly demonstrated your knowledge of the natural world. It seems you cannot distinguish Earth Fire, and the appearance of Heavenly Fire/Flames!

Until you can elevate your thoughts, you are confined in this dimension of understanding!

619 posted on 12/31/2002 1:49:45 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu; Elsie
It seems you cannot distinguish Earth Fire, and the appearance of Heavenly Fire/Flames!

Tell me, if you can, what is God's white fire? I know the answer, Alex, the Jews know the answer and Elsie knows the answer, but does restornu know the answer? Bible for 2000, double jeopardy!

620 posted on 12/31/2002 1:56:00 PM PST by JesseShurun
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