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JPII: Church's Social Work Is Not Political, Gospel Message Must Accompany Aid
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Posted on 10/22/2002 8:50:25 AM PDT by Polycarp

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He urged the Brazilian prelates not to have "reservations about associating the word of Christ to charitable activities by a misunderstood sense of respect for others' convictions."

"It is not an act of charity to leave brothers in darkness about truth," John Paul II stressed. "It is not an act of charity to feed the poor or visit the suffering by taking human resources to them but not communicating to them the Word that saves."

1 posted on 10/22/2002 8:50:25 AM PDT by Polycarp
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Pinging...someone once accused Mother Teresa of the error the Pope is addressing here. How preposterous!
2 posted on 10/22/2002 8:51:31 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
Servant bump.
3 posted on 10/22/2002 8:56:58 AM PDT by Salvation
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He urged the Brazilian prelates not to have "reservations about associating the word of Christ to charitable activities by a misunderstood sense of respect for others' convictions."

Unfortunately in America the Government would never allow the name of Jesus tied to "social work"

"Catholic Charities " in Buffalo (I can not speak for other areas) has long ago ceased to be anything more than a secular charity in practice..they have athesists and gays and all manner of employees and NONE of then NAME Christ..loss of federal funds you know

It is very sad

4 posted on 10/22/2002 11:46:09 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Polycarp
Didnt want to get intp Mother Teresa..but you brought it up poly
and pinged me to it


She had said


 "If one is a good Hindu, or of any other faith, and a good
believing person in that faith, then that person will go to heaven."

She has made this same statement many times in interviews and on T.V., and in print.

In her many visits to the Vatican NO ONE, not even the Pope himself, WARNED HER !

 Mother Theresa, and thousands of Priests, and other Clergy, in the Roman Catholic Church
have made statements to that effect.  = " Die a good (anything) and you go to heaven".

Articles of  " The Council of Trent " -  held in  1546, and then reaffirmed at
" The Vatican Council II " -  held  in 1963 -  state that, without question, ANYONE who believes
that one can be saved without The Roman Catholic Church is AUTOMATICALLY  anathema!
That is,  CONDEMNED TO ETERNAL HELL !   ~   CURSED !

No Pope, Cardinal, Archbishop, or  Bishop,  is required to activate THE CURSE -
 IT IS AUTOMATIC!

Now I ask this question - "According to the Roman Catholic Church, Mother Theresa,  by her own statements,  has condemned herself to hell .   The Pope himself can not reverse this condemnation !


5 posted on 10/22/2002 11:55:54 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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Now I ask this question - "According to the Roman Catholic Church, Mother Theresa, by her own statements, has condemned herself to hell . The Pope himself can not reverse this condemnation !

Here Mom, your gonna need this, Its been nice knowing ya, save me and Becky a seat at the Praise God party in heaven :)

BigMack

6 posted on 10/22/2002 12:06:49 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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Now I ask this question - "According to the Roman Catholic Church, Mother Theresa, by her own statements, has condemned herself to hell .

RnMomof7: "Gimme a Rope, I'll hang myself."

Ever read about Pavlov?

7 posted on 10/22/2002 12:16:37 PM PDT by Polycarp
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LOL..LOL....I only posted a response
8 posted on 10/22/2002 12:16:47 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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I encourage you to seek psychotherapy to deal with your issues expressed in arrogating to yourself the authority to declare Mother Teresa condemned to Hell.
9 posted on 10/22/2002 12:21:24 PM PDT by Siobhan
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Hey eithor the council of Trent is right or it is wrong..talk to your church not to me..Mother Teresa means nothing to me..
10 posted on 10/22/2002 12:28:19 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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A ping for the Pope.

You also may be interested in this thread to read RNMomof7's declaration that Mother Teresa is condemned to hell.

11 posted on 10/22/2002 12:28:25 PM PDT by Siobhan
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Is her declaration fallible or infallible according to HOPIOS?
12 posted on 10/22/2002 12:31:44 PM PDT by Polycarp
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You are not empowered to be an arbiter of anything having to do with any Council of the Catholic Church. You appear to relish assaulting everything and everyone that Catholics cherish. You have a diabolical obsession with attacking and assaulting even the bravest of hearts who serve the Lord Jesus Christ, and that is both a psychiatric as well as a spiritual disorder of the highest magnitude.
13 posted on 10/22/2002 12:32:47 PM PDT by Siobhan
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Pinging....
14 posted on 10/22/2002 12:42:38 PM PDT by Siobhan
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Dear Siobhan,

Hurray for our Holy Father!

As for RnMomof7, if she is fortunate, Mother Teresa will take note of her denigration, and will turn the other cheek and pray for her.


sitetest
15 posted on 10/22/2002 12:44:41 PM PDT by sitetest
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Pinging....
16 posted on 10/22/2002 12:45:56 PM PDT by Siobhan
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Seriously, rather then just telling RN she is loony could you explain why you have this disagreement with her about MT. I have wondered the same about how a catholic could explain why MT's words were not wrong. This is an issue that I have not seen explained by any catholic. Do you think MT did not say these things? Has the catholic teaching on this changed?

Becky

17 posted on 10/22/2002 12:47:25 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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Yes, Mother would do that. She claimed nothing for herself, and she prayed fervently for those who spoke ill of her. But let someone attack the opus dei and she would respond with the searing insights of the Holy Spirit that left journalists and politicians trembling.
18 posted on 10/22/2002 12:51:46 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Romans v.i. 3, 4,

If any man receive not Baptism, he hath not salvation; except only Martyrs, who even without the water receive the kingdom. For when the Saviour, in redeeming the world by His Cross, was pierced in the side, He shed forth blood and water; that men, living in times of peace, might be baptized in water, and, in times of persecution, in their own blood. For martyrdom also the Saviour is wont to call a baptism, saying, Can ye drink rite cup which I drink, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? And the Martyrs confess, by being made a spectacle unto the world, and to Angels, and to men; and thou wilt soon confess:--but it is not yet the time for thee to hear of this.

Seems like exceptions to the rule are not a new idea, nor Mother Theresa's own idea. V's wife

20 posted on 10/22/2002 1:04:57 PM PDT by ventana
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