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To: Polycarp
Didnt want to get intp Mother Teresa..but you brought it up poly
and pinged me to it


She had said


 "If one is a good Hindu, or of any other faith, and a good
believing person in that faith, then that person will go to heaven."

She has made this same statement many times in interviews and on T.V., and in print.

In her many visits to the Vatican NO ONE, not even the Pope himself, WARNED HER !

 Mother Theresa, and thousands of Priests, and other Clergy, in the Roman Catholic Church
have made statements to that effect.  = " Die a good (anything) and you go to heaven".

Articles of  " The Council of Trent " -  held in  1546, and then reaffirmed at
" The Vatican Council II " -  held  in 1963 -  state that, without question, ANYONE who believes
that one can be saved without The Roman Catholic Church is AUTOMATICALLY  anathema!
That is,  CONDEMNED TO ETERNAL HELL !   ~   CURSED !

No Pope, Cardinal, Archbishop, or  Bishop,  is required to activate THE CURSE -
 IT IS AUTOMATIC!

Now I ask this question - "According to the Roman Catholic Church, Mother Theresa,  by her own statements,  has condemned herself to hell .   The Pope himself can not reverse this condemnation !


5 posted on 10/22/2002 11:55:54 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Now I ask this question - "According to the Roman Catholic Church, Mother Theresa, by her own statements, has condemned herself to hell . The Pope himself can not reverse this condemnation !

Here Mom, your gonna need this, Its been nice knowing ya, save me and Becky a seat at the Praise God party in heaven :)

BigMack

6 posted on 10/22/2002 12:06:49 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: RnMomof7
Now I ask this question - "According to the Roman Catholic Church, Mother Theresa, by her own statements, has condemned herself to hell .

RnMomof7: "Gimme a Rope, I'll hang myself."

Ever read about Pavlov?

7 posted on 10/22/2002 12:16:37 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: RnMomof7
I encourage you to seek psychotherapy to deal with your issues expressed in arrogating to yourself the authority to declare Mother Teresa condemned to Hell.
9 posted on 10/22/2002 12:21:24 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: RnMomof7
ANYONE who believes that one can be saved without The Roman Catholic Church is AUTOMATICALLY anathema!
That is, CONDEMNED TO ETERNAL HELL ! ~ CURSED !

No kidding, that is what they taught when I was little but I was hoping they outgrew that arrogant nonsense by now.

33 posted on 10/22/2002 1:26:22 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: RnMomof7
Can you say you follow the Bible as well as she did? Does your Bible have the Beattitudes, or not? In your Bible does, Jesus tell the Pharisees what the two GREATEST commandements are? Do you remember what Jesus told the rich, young man who wanted to be Jesus' disciple? Are these parts of the Gospel ``unimportant?''

By the way, you give absolutely no citation to Mother Theresas words.

40 posted on 10/22/2002 1:37:40 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: RnMomof7
This is really an excellent question, and it's not enlightening to see Catholics floundering around so much trying to answer it.

The simple answer is that the statements you have quoted could be interpreted to be heretical. The anathemas written in such bracing language that you quote from Trent apply to all heretics (Protestants, for example). So is Mother Theresa a heretic?

In order to be a heretic, one has to KNOWINGLY and OBSTINATELY cling to heresy, even though one is aware that it is contrary to Catholic teaching. In fact, the first condition for all mortal sin is that one has to be aware that the action is seriously wrong.

Mother Theresa would NEVER have wished to hold any beliefs that were contrary to the faith. The fact that she would make some erroneous comments in an interview is not evidence of heresy. But if she were warned by her bishop or by the Vatican that such statements were contrary to the faith, and she persisted in teaching them anyway, then she would be a heretic and would fall under the condemnations you cite, no matter how many good works she may have done.

It is an indictment of the post-Vatican II Church that someone as saintly as Mother Theresa, someone who wanted only to believe what the Church believes, could have been mistaken on such a basic point. Those who created so much confusion in the Church such that basic doctrines are no longer clear even to those in the most advantageous positions, are the ones who will find themselves suffering under the anathemas of the Council of Trent.
73 posted on 10/22/2002 3:36:54 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: RnMomof7; Siobhan
Here are some definitions of anathema that are more to the sense of what those at Trent were saying.

1. A formal ecclesiastical ban
2. A vehement denunciation
4. One that is (to be) greatly reviled, loathed, or shunned.

The modern perspective on the nutshell from Trent to lend context: Stay away from proddies and other heretics. This was after all back during the Reformation and could be viewed as an attempt to pull the wagons into a circle on the part of the Church (they get better reception that way).

That said, I was always taught that no one gets to Eternal Life but through Jesus. I would certainly tend to put a bit of trust in the expressed feelings of a living saint who helped more people to experience Gods grace on a bad day than RN (or any of us) has done thus far in her entire life.

The bottom line as I see it is that Christ gets to decide whose lives reflected the qualities he said would recieve the reward of heaven. While it is shocking to consider that those of other faiths could be "Christ-like" did he not say that he was the hungry, the thirsty, and the naked of the world?

80 posted on 10/22/2002 5:03:05 PM PDT by ventana
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To: RnMomof7
Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away

05708 `ed {ayd} [compare 05710, 05749];

TWOT - 1564a; n f

AV - filthy 1; 1

1) menstruation

1a) filthy rag, stained garment (fig. of best deeds of guilty people)

<>They prolly didn't like being called Kotex.<>

Until you see your life and works as filthy rags (dirty Kotex) before a Holy God..you will never see Him face to face

<>Denying 1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all iniquity," The Kotex Kid comes riding in ...

Mom, you may be a Kotex. Mother Theresa isn't. Nor, is ANY Christian that has been Baptised<>

114 posted on 10/23/2002 2:20:51 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: RnMomof7
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01455e.htm

<> anathema link<>
115 posted on 10/23/2002 2:26:19 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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