[ultima ratio]

Your view is that the all-knowing and all-wise "Supreme Pontiff" was right and the lowly, ignorant, and disobedient Archbishop was wrong?

Then how come the facts bear out the Archbishop? And how come his order is flourishing? And how come everything the Pope touches--except maybe his rock concerts--is collapsing?

By their fruits you will know them.

[sitetest]

Dear ultima ratio,

"Your view is that the all-knowing and all-wise 'Supreme Pontiff' was right and the lowly, ignorant, and disobedient Archbishop was wrong?"

LOL. Are you sure you're really a Catholic?? It isn't a matter of all-knowing or all-wise, it's a question of binding authority. The pope's got it, the archbishop didn't.

As to whether or not the late archbishop's order is flourishing, I recently read that his order's vocations are down about 20% over the past 10 years. I know that the orthodox "Novus Ordo" seminaries in the US are bursting at the seams. Our own orthodox seminary in our archdiocese is full.

Thanks for asking. ;-)

sitetest sitetest

[sinkspur]

Then how come the facts bear out the Archbishop? And how come his order is flourishing? And how come everything the Pope touches--except maybe his rock concerts--is collapsing?

I've stayed out of this cat fight, but it's been fun to watch.

ultima, you have been asked, over and over and over, to back up your contention that the SSPX sect is "flourishing." Your word is not enough. You've got to back up what you say with citations, or, clearly state that what you are saying is your opinion.

And, the Catholic Church continues to grow, year after year. The Catholic Church in America now stands 62 million, from 40 million in 1980.