Creationists Gather...Dinosaurs Subject of Discussion

The Cincinnati Enquirer ^ | Saturday, July 20, 2002 | Cindy Schroeder

[yankeedame]

Saturday, July 20, 2002

Creationists gather today:Dinosaurs subject of discussion

By Cindy Schroeder, cschroeder@enquirer.com

The Cincinnati Enquirer

UNION — As children create models of dinosaurs, their parents can search for Biblical references to the giant creatures at a weekend conference hosted by a pro-Creationist ministry that vows to “defend scripture from the very first verse.”

The site of the Answers in Genesis Creation Museum in Boone County is being graded. (Patrick Reddy photo) | ZOOM | Organizers of the program running today and Sunday at Big Bone Baptist Church in Union say the Answers in Genesis family conference is expected to draw between 500 and 600 people within a day's drive of the Tristate. They say it is part of an ongoing series of family conferences that the 8-year-old nonprofit ministry — now building a 50,000-square-foot museum in Hebron — has offered throughout the country to “give (believers) arguments to help debunk evolution.”

Answers in Genesis followers believe the Earth's creatures were created by God and were not the result of an evolutionary process as espoused by scientists such as Charles Darwin.

“Our purpose is to equip Christians to be able to defend Christianity against the evolutionary ideas (or) secular ideas that challenge the Bible,” said Ken Ham, executive director of Answers in Genesis and the conference's keynote speaker. He said organizers will present what they believe is the factual account of the history of the world as presented in Genesis, the first book of the Old Testament.

Like those who promote Intelligent Design, Answers in Genesis followers believe that all life was the result of a creator. However, they carry that theory further, in that they maintain the creator “is the God of the Bible and you can trust the God of the Bible,” Mr. Ham said.

With the help of the writings of “Scriptural Geologists,” Terry Mortenson, a full-time lecturer with Answers in Genesis who has degrees in theology and geology, will attempt to show that dinosaurs walked the Earth with man.

Arnold Miller, a professor of geology at the University of Cincinnati, challenged participants to “go out and examine the evidence themselves,” rather than allow others to interpret the evidence for them.

“I'm all for Answers in Genesis having every opportunity to say what they want,” Mr. Miller said. “But I would challenge anyone who goes to this conference to demand direct positive evidence that the creation of life took place over six days in 4004 B.C. or whatever they say. People should ask, "What's the evidence? Let's hear it.'

“It's one thing to provide misleading characterizations in scientific debates. It's another to say that the answers (to issues such as how life began) really are in Genesis.”

[yankeedame]

"I neither condemn nor approve; I merely relate."-- Voltaire

[Elsie]

Yee Haw!!!!!

Let the GAMES begin!!! (again)

[f.Christian]

Creation/God...Christianity---secular-govt.-humanism/SCIENCE---CIVILIZATION!

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(NO govt religion-EVOLUTION-none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(common sense/history)!

[Prodigal Son]

Whew! I try to stay off these threads. So let me just post and leave really quick before people get vicious.

[f.Christian]

VISCIOUS!

[f.Christian]

Syllables: vi-cious

Part of Speech adjective
Pronunciation vI shEs
Definition 1. characterized by vice; wicked; immoral.
Synonyms atrocious (1) , wicked (1) , flagitious , nefarious , heinous , immoral , evil (1,2)
Similar Words odious , loathsome , fiendish , depraved {deprave} , reprobate , villainous , foul , despicable , abhorrent , infamous , vile , base2 , contemptible
Definition 2. given to violence or cruelty; savage; fierce.
Synonyms cruel (1) , fierce (1) , savage (1) , ferocious (1) , violent (1)
Crossref. Syn. brutal , evil , grim , brute
Similar Words wild , truculent , predatory , merciless , brutal , slashing , dangerous , barbarous , barbaric , ruthless
Definition 3. malicious.
Synonyms spiteful , rancorous , malicious , malign , malevolent , vindictive (1,2)
Crossref. Syn. evil
Similar Words predatory , hostile , caustic , venomous , acerbic , sardonic , cruel , hateful , antagonistic

Related Words mean , evil , wanton , tough , satanic , injurious , bloodthirsty , virulent , gory , destructive , nasty , barbarian , heinous , cutting , atrocious , nefarious

Derived Forms viciously, adv. ; viciousness, n.

[FastCoyote]

First, I plan to get viscous, not viscious.

"were created by God and were not the result of an evolutionary process"

Why couldn't God create a world WITH evolutionary processes if he pleased? I think these debates are sooo off the mark.

[balrog666]

Our purpose is to equip Christians to be able to defend Christianity against the evolutionary ideas (or) secular ideas that challenge the Bible,”

Do evolutionary ideas challenge the Bible? Or are they picking a fight keep the faithful from questioning anything?

[Prodigal Son]

VISCIOUS

I'm sorry, I'm not tracking with you... Are you saying I misspelled it or that you did? I spelled the word I meant to use correctly. My Oxford's doesn't show any definitions for viscious- now viscous, that's a different matter. At any rate that's just what I'm talking about ;-)

[f.Christian]

Syllables: vis-cous

Part of Speech adjective
Pronunciation vI skEs
Definition 1. having an adhesive, gluey consistency that resists flow.
Crossref. Syn. thick , stiff

Related Words coherent , adherent , adhesive

Derived Forms viscously, adv.

[Apple Pan Dowdy]

OK, here is my theory (well not originally mine, but the one I believe may be the answer to the conflict, its called the "Gap Theory").....
The first verse of Genesis begins: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." He created, but when it does not say. Perhaps eons ago. Prehistoric creatures were put here to walk the earth. They left a lot of fossil remains as they died out from natural causes, perhaps a meteor.
The Bible goes on in verse 2 to say: "The earth was formless and void and darkness was over the surface of the waters."
I have read that the hebrew word for "void" suggested something that once was and then was really messed up. Perhaps the war that the Bible later mentions between the angels of heaven where one-third of the angels follows Satan and gets kicked out of heaven, really messed up the earth, made it "void" and dark.
Now God looks upon the earth again and says in verse three: "Let there be light".... there already was a sun and moon, created eons before, He just lifted the darkness surrounding the messed up earth and let the sun once more shine upon the earth, and began the literal seven days of the new creation of earth in which he would this time instead of dinosaures put other creatures and man upon the earth.
It is a plausable explianation that allows responsible science to coincide with the Bible. I do not believe Darwin's theory to be "responsible" science as there are too many descrepancies (the main one being the odds on amino acids just by chance forming into complex "life" are just too great to believe that happened by chance. The Bible has no contradictions.... only misunderstandings of men reading into it more than is there. The Bible has mysteries that are not readily clear because this helps to separate the believers from the non-believers. The believers take the Bible first on FAITH..... then one by one the mysteries begin to become clear as the Holy Spirit reveals them to us.
Go ahead and call me stupid or nieve, but all I can say is.... we will see one day!

[Prodigal Son]

OK.

[jlogajan]

With a special visit by Barney, who will then deny the evidence of his own existence.

[JesseShurun]

I'm going to go oil my head and get viscid.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

How'd the coal get put in so deep ?

[Scully]

Do evolutionary ideas challenge the Bible? Or are they picking a fight keep the faithful from questioning anything?

I think you characterized the situation perfectly.

[JediGirl]

A PatrickHenrysycophant-Placemarker

[Apple Pan Dowdy]

"How'd the coal get put in so deep ?"

Did you read what I wrote... or like most people thump it off as stupid before reading? The coal was formed during the eons of time between verse one and verse 2... thats why its called the "Gap Theory".

[Alamo-Girl]

I would appreciate if y'all or anyone else who has a view to share, would also post it to this thread: Freeper Views on Origns

Thank you!