Catholic Caucus: The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass

New Oxford Review ^ | J+M+J June A.D. 2002 | Mario Derksen

[Siobhan]

In all the troubles in Church, let us never forget that we are rooted and centered in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and the Real Presence of Jesus whom we adore in the Most Holy Eucharist.

[Siobhan]

May the Lord bless us one and all.

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[JMJ333]

Thanks! Hope you are doing well...

[Lady In Blue]

Thanks you,Siobhan.Bumping for a later read this evening.God bless you too!

[Coleus]

The Eucharist and the Sacrifice of the Mass

[narses]

“Last summer the Vatican’s Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, with the full agreement of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Congregations for the Oriental Churches, issued a series of guidelines for Eucharistic sharing between the Chaldean church (which is in communion with Rome) and the Assyrian church of the East (which is not). The guidelines are revolutionary in character. For the first time in modern history, the Catholic church has recognized the validity of a eucharistic prayer (the Anaphora of Addai and Mari) without the words of institution (“This is my body. ...This is my blood”), more commonly referred to as the words of consecration.

In the popular Catholic mind, especially before Vatican II, these words have had an almost magical quality. Whenever a validly ordained priest utters them over a large host (often times over a ciborium full of smaller hosts as well) and then over a chalice containing wine, Christ immediately “comes down” from heaven, taking the form of bread and wine to be received by the faithful as holy Communion, that is, His very “body and blood, soul and divinity.”

[JMJ333]

Welcome to FR. =)

[Salvation]

Opinions of early Church Fathers about the Sacrifice of the Mass.

[Litany]

Thank you for this post. It reminds me that I really miss the Sacredness that used to be part of the Consecration, as I experienced it years ago. In the Milwaukee Archdiocese the priest rushes through the Consecration, even many parishioners don't show reverence anymore. The highlight of the Mass at our church seems to be the Sign of Peace.

[narses]

Thanks. :)

[Angelique]

Very interesting article. At first, I did not understand why there had to be the comparison with Protestants, but it makes sense. There are some masses that do sort of resemble what the author is describing.

Bless you for all your energy here at FR. How's history_matters?

[narses]

Many, way too many, in the Church hierarchy are apostate.

Father George May, Professor of Canon Law at Mainz University from 1960 to 1994, denounced the scandal of Archbishops Walter Kasper and Karl Lehmann receiving red hats.

In a February 2001 interview in Kirchliche Umschau, Father May said: "The nomination of Kasper and Lehmann [to the College of Cardinals] is a genuine scandal, that is to say, an occasion of sin . . . "

Both Kasper and Lehmann were made Cardinals by Pope John Paul II on February 21, 2001.

As for Karl Lehmann, even the liberal Italian press calls him "soft rebel," contrasting him with "hard rebels" such as Hans Kung. For years Lehmann resisted the Vatican's efforts to stop the German bishops from operating "counseling centers" which issued certificates German women need to obtain abortions under German law. He has also publicly questioned the Church's teaching that divorced and remarried Catholics may not receive Holy Communion. He co-authored [with fellow progressivist Walter Kaspar] a theology text which, among other things, denies the existence of a personal devil and personal demons.

Lehmann is unrepentant since his elevation to the status of Cardinal. Catholic World News reported that the day after he got his red hat, Lehmann "told reporters that he did not regret his opposition to the Holy See on the question of abortion counseling in Germany."

The other new Cardinal, Walter Kasper, is well-known for his heterodox views on the person of Jesus Christ. In his 1973 book Jesus Yes, Church No?, Father Kasper scorned the infallible Sacred Scriptures, stating that Christ "probably described himself neither as Messiah nor as Servant of God, nor as Son of God nor as Son of Man."

After Kasper's elevation to the Cardinalate, he was appointed Prefect of the Vatican's Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity. At the same time, he brazenly defied 2000 years of Church teaching alleging that non-Catholics need not convert to Catholicism for salvation. In a public statement printed in Adisti in February, Kasper said: ". . . today we no longer understand ecumenism in the sense of a return, by which the others would 'be converted' and return to being 'Catholics.' This was expressly abandoned at Vatican II."

With Cardinals like these, who need enemies?

[RnMomof7]

There is probably no doctrine in the Catholic Faith that has been misunderstood more by Protestants than that of the Holy Mass. The Mass is the central act of Catholic worship: Christ's sacrifice on Calvary is perpetuated because the priest offers it anew to the Father. It is not a new sacrifice, but the same one that Jesus offered on the Cross 2,000 years ago, the difference being that in the Mass it is — in a sense — unbloody. Jesus does not die or suffer again at each Mass, but is simply re-presented, re-offered to the Father.
In short, the only difference between the Sacrifice of the Cross and that of the Mass is that the mode of offering is different. On the Cross, the mode of offering was bloody; in the Mass, the mode of offering is unbloody.

Salvation is in and through the blood of Christ. there is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. (Hbr 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption [for us].)

It can not be offered anew as Jesus died once for all (Hbr 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all].)

..He died and He rose ..sacrificing Him anew is of no benefit..Hbr 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Hbr 10:18 Now where remission of these [is, there is] no more offering for sin.

Hbr 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

Hbr 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

Hbr 10:21 And [having] an high priest over the house of God;

IMHO a bloodless "sacrifice "is not pleasing to God...like the sacrifice offerd by Cain it is not the one demanded by God it is an invention of man ! Jesus said "It is finished" and it is !

[narses]

Our Lord shed His blood on the Cross for the remission of sin. It was the final necessary sacrifice. The Eucharist, instituted by Him at the Last Supper allows each of us to participate in that sacrifice. It IS His Body and Blood.

[narses]

"The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread" (I Cor 10:16-17)

[sinkspur]

With Cardinals like these, who need enemies?

JPII appointed both of them, then elevated Kaspar to head a Pontifical Commission.

What do you think that says about JP II?

[sitetest]

Dear sinkspur,

"'With Cardinals like these, who need enemies?'

"JPII appointed both of them, then elevated Kaspar to head a Pontifical Commission.

"What do you think that says about JP II?"

That he's not perfect??

sitetest

[RnMomof7]

With respect that is not the issue I addressed..I addressed the "unbloody sacrifice" of the mass...I compared it to Cains rejected sacrifice.

[narses]

I think he is trying to balance competing issues. Kasper was a tool to prevent a threatened German schism, from what I hear.

[sinkspur]

JPII also elevated every single one of the American Cardinals, the Belgian cardinal who resigned after being accused of abuse, and over 80% of the bishops currently in place.