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To: Siobhan; drstevej; the_doc
There is probably no doctrine in the Catholic Faith that has been misunderstood more by Protestants than that of the Holy Mass. The Mass is the central act of Catholic worship: Christ's sacrifice on Calvary is perpetuated because the priest offers it anew to the Father. It is not a new sacrifice, but the same one that Jesus offered on the Cross 2,000 years ago, the difference being that in the Mass it is — in a sense — unbloody. Jesus does not die or suffer again at each Mass, but is simply re-presented, re-offered to the Father.
In short, the only difference between the Sacrifice of the Cross and that of the Mass is that the mode of offering is different. On the Cross, the mode of offering was bloody; in the Mass, the mode of offering is unbloody.

Salvation is in and through the blood of Christ. there is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. (Hbr 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption [for us].)

It can not be offered anew as Jesus died once for all (Hbr 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all].)

..He died and He rose ..sacrificing Him anew is of no benefit..Hbr 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Hbr 10:18 Now where remission of these [is, there is] no more offering for sin.

Hbr 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

Hbr 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

Hbr 10:21 And [having] an high priest over the house of God;

IMHO a bloodless "sacrifice "is not pleasing to God...like the sacrifice offerd by Cain it is not the one demanded by God it is an invention of man ! Jesus said "It is finished" and it is !

13 posted on 06/22/2002 6:50:22 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Our Lord shed His blood on the Cross for the remission of sin. It was the final necessary sacrifice. The Eucharist, instituted by Him at the Last Supper allows each of us to participate in that sacrifice. It IS His Body and Blood.
14 posted on 06/22/2002 7:03:41 PM PDT by narses
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To: RnMomof7
Your opinion is incorrect.
24 posted on 06/22/2002 7:38:12 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: RnMomof7
"IMHO a bloodless "sacrifice "is not pleasing to God...like the sacrifice offerd by Cain it is not the one demanded by God it is an invention of man ! Jesus said "It is finished" and it is !"

RN, why not let Catholics worship in Peace? I know the Catholics on these threads are not going to renounce their Faith in the Catholic Church established by Jesus. I think all of us know you did and you must live with the consequences.I am happy to let you be at peace in your decision. Please extend that christian charity towards others.

I don't harbor any illusions you will recant your very public break with your former Communion and I think you err in judging that others are like you used to be. Please, leave Catholics alone. I do not care to hear your personal opinions about our innumerable heresies, false practices, superstitions etc.

Please show confidence in your decision and rest easy in it. Harassing others in your former Communion seems to be a particularly "formerly-Catholic" characteristic. My wife is a former Congregationalist and she harbors no animosity or ill will against her former Communion.

My wife made her own Rosary and prays it daily, she goes to Mass and receives the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus but she doesn't go and harass current Congregationalists about their many errors etc. My wife gives them the benefit of the doubt in thinking they are acting in good faith and prays for their growth into fullness.

The same goes for Scott Hahn and MILLIONS of former protestants. They don't go to protestant threads and berate them for their presumed heresies etc and claim that God doesn't accept this or that and that He is insulted by their worship.

Why is it that former Catholics are so riven with animosity?

RNmom, your "witness" appears to be self-incrimination too frequently. Let it go...You left and you are happy you left. Let us also be happy - happy that you left and happy that we didn't.
53 posted on 06/23/2002 7:39:03 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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