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EWTN TV USCCB Coverage Of The Summer Session
EWTN Television ^ | June,2002 | staff

Posted on 06/09/2002 5:16:31 PM PDT by Lady In Blue

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To: Siobhan
both = all

Night night!

461 posted on 06/14/2002 6:43:39 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: Siobhan
Same to you! Thank you. I'm headed off myself.
462 posted on 06/14/2002 6:43:54 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen
Yes, it's pretty depressing. I knew a priest who was sent to a monastery (actually, it was a monastic jail in Europe - he was a Spaniard) for the mere rumor of an infraction in the late 50s. He was very chastened by the experience and tried to mind his Ps and Qs thereafter. Then came the 60s'- actually, the 70's were the really bad time - and he went off to Paris and spent his time being a "worker priest" and sleeping around with anybody who couldn't move fast enough to get away from him. He's still engaged in this pastime, even though he now lives in NY.

The terrible thing is that so many lives (individual and family) were destroyed during that period. I remember how the priests used to tell us how "private" sin (adultery, for example) ended by infecting the entire Body of Christ. And then they gave themselves up to nothing but full-throttle individual sin that has, indeed, seriously infected the entire Body of Christ.

463 posted on 06/14/2002 6:46:03 PM PDT by livius
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To: american colleen
I can't even fake I know what you are talking about!

Skadden, Arps, [something], Meagher & Flom is a law firm, with its main offices in New York, and other offices all over the country, in Europe, Asia and who knows where else. (I temped for a while in their Boston office.) You do know the current general opinion of lawyers? Of course you do.

Skadden, Arps was probably the first law firm to provide shower facilities and cots or couches so that nobody would ever have to go home. (Most of the big ones do now.) The Boston office orders in lunch for attorneys so that they have no excuse to go out to eat. The office is 'unofficially' open Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's. They really do have a reputation among law firms as being utterly cutthroat -- and they are.

There is no tactic so low-down, so despicable, so utterly unfair (but marginally legal) they won't use. (Now you know why Clinton sought them out.) Even small nastinesses are not beneath them -- "no, we won't send you another copy of the pleading, you should have hung on to the first." Their litigation attorneys do not allow their secretaries to tell a caller -- even a client! -- that the attorney is out of the office, just that he's "not available" (I always wondered whether they expected gangland guns to be after them -- as I type this, I guess it could be!).

464 posted on 06/14/2002 6:52:12 PM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz
I e-mailed Bishop Bruskewitz (ok, the Diocese of Lincoln, which was the only option) to praise him for his attempt to get that into the final statement. American colleen said she intended to.

I did it about two seconds after someone posted the address link. I hope a lot of us do the same. He is a wonderful, holy man. He needs our support and prayers and encouragement.

465 posted on 06/14/2002 6:54:49 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: livius
The terrible thing is that so many lives (individual and family) were destroyed during that period.

And a lot that weren't utterly destroyed were maimed. What an awful era it was! And we're still reaping the fruits!

466 posted on 06/14/2002 6:54:57 PM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz
I worked for Arthur Young (now Ernst and Young) in the mid to late 80s - much the same - no one was ever really out of the office, cots, etc. I made a lot of money, but I earned it. All the "top" companies are much the same, I expect.

I remember (and recently reminded my husband I had done so!) telling my husband when AY got into the "consulting" side in the mid 80s I thought it was a little dodgy since they did the taxes for those companies as well. And look at Enron.

467 posted on 06/14/2002 6:59:50 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen
Aside from Bruskeiwitz,who are the orthodox Bishops?
468 posted on 06/14/2002 7:01:15 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: maryz
couches so that nobody would ever have to go home.

LOL! Yes, I can tell that you too have been through law firm hell. Skadden Arps was just one of the gang - I can't even think of a decent law firm.

I worked (in computers) at one where a poor associate tried to break a window on the 55th floor and throw herself out. EMS carried her out tied in a sheet from one of the overnighter beds.

I always felt that, in some ways, it was a religious problem. People were miserable, and had no ethics and no lives because their mainstay, the Catholic Church, had basically abandoned them.

Not that they were all Catholics. But Catholics don't realize that if the Church collapses, everything dependent upon it also collapses.

469 posted on 06/14/2002 7:08:36 PM PDT by livius
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To: maryz
Sent one copy to Archbishop Montalvo and a nearly identical version to Cardinal Castrillon-Hoyos (Prefect of the Congregation of the Clergy). I think I may send it also to my own archbish., just for the hell of it.

I'm mulling the idea of a coordinated letter-writing campaign. Watch this space.

470 posted on 06/14/2002 9:09:39 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: american colleen
the laity is really fired up on both sides, I think

I heard this addressed by someone today. The liberal left who would want open homesexual priests, etc. and the right (us) that would like to have rules and policies in the American Church tightened up and then standardized with the blessing of the Holy Father.

471 posted on 06/14/2002 9:41:32 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Siobhan
Good night to you both and sweet dreams, and may the Holy Angels attend you.

And likewise, you.

472 posted on 06/14/2002 9:43:29 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: livius
I always felt that, in some ways, it was a religious problem. People were miserable, and had no ethics and no lives because their mainstay, the Catholic Church, had basically abandoned them.

You get it! Bravo.

473 posted on 06/14/2002 10:02:56 PM PDT by a history buff
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To: american colleen
All the "top" companies are much the same, I expect.

The WSJ ran an article about Skadden doing these things ages ago -- I really think they were the leader.

474 posted on 06/15/2002 1:45:14 AM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz
You are right Skadden did seem like the evil empire - I did some research on the net because I had not heard of them.

My own hellish experience is limited to what used to be the "big 8" accounting firms. But there is nothing quite so cut throat as lawyers.

475 posted on 06/15/2002 6:08:30 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: saradippity
I don't know! I have to go by what you guys write and then I usually try to find information on whoever someone mentions.

Bishop Joseph Sullivan seemed pretty good yesterday... but Bruskewitz sure was wonderful. I didn't catch anyone else mentioning "homosexuality" and very few mentioned "dissention."

476 posted on 06/15/2002 6:12:31 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: Salvation
I heard this addressed by someone today. The liberal left who would want open homesexual priests, etc. and the right (us) that would like to have rules and policies in the American Church tightened up and then standardized with the blessing of the Holy Father.

Which sounds like a disagreement between "CINOs" and Catholics.

477 posted on 06/15/2002 6:24:40 AM PDT by american colleen
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