Posted on 06/09/2002 5:16:31 PM PDT by Lady In Blue
USCCB COVERAGE OF THE SUMMER SESSION
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Excellent suggestion, because Montalvo is a bit like a black hole in outer space.
LOL. I didn't see any of the coverage today. But, on the way home I chose to listen to Bob Dylan sing "Everything is broken." It seemed apt for today;
"Broken cutters, broken saws...
Broken treaties, broken laws... Everything is broken"
When I got home, I researched the quote I was paraphrasing earlier when I was noting how the coming collapse is inevitable. It was by Peter Kreeft in his "You can Understand the Old Testament."
. He was speaking of Israel and the Judges - but his illustration applies, sadly, to the AmChurch. The diagram is a circle, so let me start where we were recently and then one can see how the cycle is repeated; according to Kreeft, "All human history, individual and social, follow this pattern.
Luxury ----->Pride---->Disaster--->Suffering---->Repentance----->Blessedness---->Luxury ---->Pride etc etc etc.
I don't see how we can escape.
Maybe I'll just pour four fingers of single malt scotch and listen to Dylan sing "Highlands" "My heart's in the Highland,
gentle and fair.
Honeysuckle blooming,
in the wildwood air.
Bluebells blazing,
where the Aberdeen waters flow.
Well my heart's in the Highlands,
I'm gonna go there when I'm ready to go"
I'm ready to go there now..bottoms-up (pun intended)
I hope this attempt is more readable
Penitent? What penitent? I don't see a penitent.
Actually, the quotes from psych reports and comments I've seen in the newspapers seem to agree that these guys don't think they're doing anything wrong. They're more like hetero rapists who insist the woman wanted it.
Pope John Paul II -- Poland
Cardinal Ratzinger -- Germany
Father Stanislaw Dziwisz -- Poland
I wish I could I could remember what thread it was on. It was before the cardinals went to Rome, and someone posted that a Polish monsignor at the Vatican had requested copies of Goodbye! Good Men and promised to get them into the pope's hands. He sounds perfect; his name wasn't in the post, I don't think, but someone might know who he is.
Romulus, is there anywhere handy you could have the letter translated into Polish and send it to pope masquerading as personal mail from a landsman?
Gregory says bishops spoke very frankly in the executive session, he says he thinks they were quite honest with each other.
Excellent questions from a reporter from "El Correo" in Spain. Gregory is waffling and not answering her question. Why do the bishops go to the nunciature in his plan instead of going to the civil authorities? Gregory's answer was very unsatisfactory. He wants to keep bishops apart from civil authorities, period.
I know that's what you were talking about, but it didn't seem relevant to Sinkspur's point. If he finds from the morning paper -- or even neighborhood gossip -- that a local priest could endanger his child, what does that have to do with the seal of confession?
In any case, as I recall from grammar school, the seal of confession is the priest's responsibility to maintain even to death, regardless of civil authority or anything else. Admittedly, we don't seem to have too many clerical martyrs warming up in the bullpen. Much of our esteemed hierarchy should dress in yellow instead of red.
If that's true, I'm way too much of lady even to speculate on what they said. At least in writing. On a public board.
He's one of Bernadin's Boys -- they probably trained the dem pols.
I've thought the same thing! But who knows... I'm sure every single generation since 50 AD or so thinks it is "the end times."
BTW. I'll pick you up and join you in "Bishop smacking" - I think it will take a tag team to get beyond Cardinal Law's bodyguards.
For one thing, a well-meaning cop might bug the confessional. But sinkspur's original point expressed incomprehension and rage at Vatican skepticism about state involvement, and I was attempting to explain the reasons for that skepticism.
I share some of this wariness. Granted, we're not the Netherlands, but when our government universities support pedophile activists, when our government elementary schools attempt to sexualize ten year olds, and when our government can't be bothered to protect the preborn, its own integrity is hardly aedified.
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