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To: Elsie
Lots of 'ways' I suppose, but you'll have to take it up with the writer of Hebrews.

The Hebrews writer agrees with us Calvinist; unless you want to contend that people who have been perfected forever are thrown into hell.

204 posted on 05/09/2002 9:18:52 PM PDT by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody

Bartender!

I'd like to buy the house a round!

(Except for that guy in the back who thinks I don't mean him.)

206 posted on 05/09/2002 9:26:42 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: CCWoody
Christ did not pay for the sins of those whom He already knew would burn forever in the Lake of Fire.

HMmmm...

It looks like.......

KJV Matthew 25:41
41. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

it was ONLY prepared for a certain group of individuals. How did HUMANS end up going there?


GOD is ALL-POWERFUL!

HMmmm...

It looks like.......

KJV Hebrews 2:14
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;


The Hebrews writer agrees with us Calvinist;


KJV Hebrews 2:1-4
1.  Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
 2.  For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;
 3.  How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
 4.  God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
 
KJV Hebrews 3:11-15
 11.  So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
 12.  Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
 13.  But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
 14.  For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
 15.  While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
 
KJV Hebrews 4:1-2
 1.  Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
 2.  For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
 
KJV Hebrews 4:11
 11.  Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
 
 
KJV Hebrews 6:4-6
 4.  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
 5.  And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
 6.  If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
 
 
KJV Hebrews 10:26-27
 26.  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
 27.  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
 
KJV Hebrews 10:39
39.  But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
 
(since you agree, why did he waste his time writing these, if it IS impossible?)

208 posted on 05/09/2002 9:57:41 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: CCWoody
"The Hebrews writer agrees with us Calvinist"

So are you a loyal disciple of Calvin or of Christ??

1 Cor 1:12-13
12 What I mean is that each one of you says, "I belong to Paul," or "I belong to Apol'los," or "I belong to Cephas," or "I belong to Christ."
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?

We can easily insert Calvin into that list

JM
241 posted on 05/14/2002 6:40:47 AM PDT by JohnnyM
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