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Catholic Caucus: Ecce!
self | 8 April A.D. 2002 | father_elijah

Posted on 04/08/2002 3:04:48 AM PDT by father_elijah

Our thread in search of a patron saint for Catholic FReepers was a marvelous revelation. We have such a rich heritage as Catholics, that the possibilities are limitless. Although it is strictly unofficial (and no one elected me Pope) I would like to declare that we do indeed have a patron saint:

Mary, Queen of All Saints



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To: sandyeggo
If you are looking for spiritual reading the simplist favorite I have is the Imitation of Christ by Thomas à Kempis. You can find the text online easily as well, if you want to see what its like. My wife (the holy one in our family) does daily mediations out of the "in conversation with God" series.

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61 posted on 04/09/2002 9:02:21 PM PDT by patent
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To: sandyeggo
If you are of the mystical inclination, I wholeheartedly recommend St. John of the Cross, Teresa of Avila, 'The Cloud of Unknowing' author unknown, and Mystical City of God by Venerable Mary of Agreda (don't know if I'm recalling that name correctly). I have read 'He Leadeth Me' and it is excellent. Anything (biographies) of the female mystics like Hildegard, Julian of Norwich, etc, is good too. I will be reading in the future works by Thomas Merton and Bede Griffiths. I can't think of anymore right now but will post again if I do.
63 posted on 04/09/2002 9:04:35 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: sandyeggo
CatholiCity.com
65 posted on 04/09/2002 9:08:27 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: sandyeggo
As I mentioned on an earlier thread, An Introduction to the Devout Life by St. Francis de Sales. And since father_elijah mentioned St. Therese, I would recommend her autobiography The Story of a Soul. They are both available from Tan Books. Another good publishing company is Ignatius Press.
68 posted on 04/09/2002 9:19:19 PM PDT by ELS
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To: Salvation
Even evangelization is an inward and then an outward process.

Yes, and St. Benedict enjoins us to begin any work with prayer, which is why the Benedictine motto is Ora et Labora. So I'd say the principle applies even to things which are not obviously religious in nature, such as academic study.

My own way of contributing to my parish is through "music ministry," as it's fashionably called these days. When I'm asked for advice by other choir members, I try to remind them that their task is not so much performance but prayer, and that their ministry consists in helping members of the congregation to pray more effectively. This is especially important, I think, with Gregorian chant, the "emotion" of which must arise from the text, interpreted prayerfully by those who sing it. But that's getting off-topic ...

71 posted on 04/09/2002 9:26:21 PM PDT by neocon
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To: neocon
Sing joyfully unto the Lord!
73 posted on 04/09/2002 9:30:58 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: sandyeggo
CathlicOnline Saints and Angels
74 posted on 04/09/2002 9:33:42 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: sandyeggo
CathlicVote.org
75 posted on 04/09/2002 9:37:11 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: sandyeggo
And one of my favorites Priests For Life

and What everyone needs to know about abortion.

76 posted on 04/09/2002 9:41:32 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: sandyeggo; neocon
All apologetics, charitable work, ministry of any kind, and even intellectual development must arise from a profound interiority if they are to be fruitful.

Sandy, I hope you'll read that again and think about it.

May I quote waht may be a relevant passage from Flannery O'Connor's letters?

Bridges once wrote Gerard Manley Hopkins and asked him to tell him how he, Bridges, could believe. He must have expected from Hopkins a linf philosophical answer. Hopkins wrote back, "Give alms.

I hope you'll thing about this seriously -- not as a pietistic exhortation, but as an invitation into the inner live of the Trinity. Human solidarity is important not because it's a nice, generous thing to do, nor because it's how we purchase merit from God, but because it's how we meet God. Remember the parable of the Good Samaritan in Luke 10? The entire force and effect of the parable lies in the Trinitarian context that precedes it: almsgiving has value not because it redeems fallen nature but because it cooperates with the latent, pre-existing redemption. In the resurrection, nature and all creation are no longer objects for predatory appetite but are transfigured into a eucharist, objects to be offered in thanksgiving. This eucharistic love of nature is certainly one that shines forth in Hopkins's poetry:

That Nature is a Heraclitean Fire and of the comfort of the Resurrection

CLOUD-PUFFBALL, torn tufts, tossed pillows ' flaunt forth, then chevy on an air-
built thoroughfare: heaven-roysterers, in gay-gangs ' they throng; they glitter in marches.
Down roughcast, down dazzling whitewash, ' wherever an elm arches,
Shivelights and shadowtackle in long ' lashes lace, lance, and pair.
Delightfully the bright wind boisterous ' ropes, wrestles, beats earth bare
Of yestertempest’s creases; in pool and rut peel parches
Squandering ooze to squeezed ' dough, crust, dust; stanches, starches
Squadroned masks and manmarks ' treadmire toil there
Footfretted in it. Million-fuelèd, ' nature’s bonfire burns on.
But quench her bonniest, dearest ' to her, her clearest-selvèd spark
Man, how fast his firedint, ' his mark on mind, is gone!
Both are in an unfathomable, all is in an enormous dark
Drowned. O pity and indig ' nation! Manshape, that shone
Sheer off, disseveral, a star, ' death blots black out; nor mark
Is any of him at all so stark
But vastness blurs and time ' beats level. Enough! the Resurrection,
A heart’s-clarion! Away grief’s gasping, ' joyless days, dejection.
Across my foundering deck shone
A beacon, an eternal beam. ' Flesh fade, and mortal trash
Fall to the residuary worm; ' world’s wildfire, leave but ash:
In a flash, at a trumpet crash,
I am all at once what Christ is, ' since he was what I am, and
This Jack, joke, poor potsherd, ' patch, matchwood, immortal diamond,
Is immortal diamond.

77 posted on 04/09/2002 9:53:50 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: sandyeggo
The one book that I have gone back to over and over again is Orthodoxy by G.K. Chesterton. I failed to mention that, and it was the first thing I was going to say!
78 posted on 04/10/2002 12:29:47 PM PDT by father_elijah
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To: patent; Askel5; Romulus; Salvation; goldenstategirl; constitutiongirl; tiki; redhead...
This doesn't fit this thread exactly, except I need your prayers and the prayers of Our Lady Mary, Queen of All Saints.

We are getting horrible news from the Sudan, and tomorrow morning I will be leaving with several others for Kenya and then parts unknown. Please pray for the Church and for persecuted Christians. And please say a prayer for me and my confreres.

God bless you! I hope to be back with you here soon.

79 posted on 04/10/2002 12:36:57 PM PDT by father_elijah
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To: father_elijah
Thanks for asking, Father.

You, your confreres and those you are serving will be among my special intentions until we hear from you again.

80 posted on 04/10/2002 12:43:05 PM PDT by Askel5
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