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To: ventana
That one is easy. Just as when the Scriptures referred to Rome as Babylon it was not yet the center of Catholicism but still in Roman hands, when Jesus said those words to the people there were not yet any people that were called father other than their own natural fathers.

Sure, Peter knew the church at Rome was called Babylon, 30 years before John put a name to it Revelations, huh?

That’s really weak, but had it ever occurred to you, that the reason no one had been called “father” prior to when your Church began doing it, was because no one had the nerve to completely ignore Christ written word and do what you wanted to do, since you feel your above the scripture.

I would have loved to be sitting in the Church the first time a priest read Matthew 23:9, and everyone started looking around at each other. Lol

No argument from me on that one. Mary's prayers, and anyone else's, on my behalf are most welcomed however.,/I>

What proof can you share with us, showing that Mary is able to communicate your prayers to anyone?

Are you saying now that she has no power to answer prayers, only take them to the Lord?

Do you believe she is omnipresent? How else could she listen to the millions of daily prayers, and then organize them, and take them to God and explain what so and so needs?

Have you thought how ridiculous this sounds?

JH :-)

48,731 posted on 04/25/2003 9:35:58 PM PDT by JHavard (RC’s have opulence and tradition, NC’s have the Bible.)
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To: JHavard
Peter called Rome the city, Rome the empire Babylon, not the Church there.

Imagine that you are sitting in a field listening to Jesus preach. In that context, when He told you to call no man Father, on that day, He could only have meant your own earthly father. To twist his words is to lose his message.

What proof can you share with us, showing that Mary is able to communicate your prayers to anyone?

I am so glad you asked :-) Go get a Rosary and start Praying it. You will see for yourself.

Are you saying now that she has no power to answer prayers, only take them to the Lord?

I don't recall having made any statements on NES on this subject prior to this. Can you provide a post #?

Do you believe she is omnipresent?

No

How else could she listen to the millions of daily prayers, and then organize them, and take them to God and explain what so and so needs?

Not my area.

Have you thought how ridiculous this sounds?

Well that's a bit rude.

v.

48,747 posted on 04/26/2003 8:58:41 AM PDT by ventana
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