[Quester]

Why is the presumption made that Jesus needed Apostles to help Him found His Church, but He does not need them anymore?

They left their testimony.

John 21:24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.

21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

If they were necessary to run the Church well at the beginning, why are they not now?

I don't know that the Apostles so much ran the Church.

Rather, I would say that they established it in the world.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Luke 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

24:48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

[SoothingDave]

Why is the presumption made that Jesus needed Apostles to help Him found His Church, but He does not need them anymore?

They left their testimony.

21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Um, this is a proof-text for the inability of the Bible to be all-inclusive. Stating that there is more that was revealed to the Apostles than what was written down. That this revelation is guarded by the authority of the Church.

I don't know that the Apostles so much ran the Church. Rather, I would say that they established it in the world.

By establishing it they were in charge. They even wrote letters detailing the faith and had them sent to the other assemblies.

Of course they were in charge. So why did this end?

SD