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To: SoothingDave
No, dear friend, like I said, at Mary's conception she was saved. She never sinned at all. Please try to learn a thing or two about the Catholic faith sometime before you die. You might be surprised. Put down the comic books.

Impossible. One has to be flesh and have some clue to what they are agreeing in order to choose a master. It's as though you're asking a baby whether he wants a bicycle or a Harley Davidson for his sixteenth birthday while the kid is dividing into it's second cell. There is no point of reference. There is no end to what you will try to reason out that both violates God's law and is not only not in scripture;but, anti-scriptural. And I am keeping up. You're trying to sell us on the notion that God can willy nilly forgive sin and remove a servant from their master with no repercussion. You are clueless. I will ask again. If God did it for Mary, why did we need Jesus. Why couldn't he have just done that for everyone instead of running the coy game.

Who said He couldn't? Talk about tying God's hands. LOL

Scripture - God's own testimony, ties God's hands. You act like life is just one big free-for-all and that there are no bounds for anyone or anything. Like the universe can just turn on it's head because you can reason it so. It's no wonder. You pick and choose the Apostles' statements and contest anything you don't like - even to the extent of contesting Christ himself. Why should we imagine you doing anything else. You have all the traits of the enemy and attempt to pass yourself off as righteous. Anything goes.. Not with the Lord God of Hosts. There are defined limits and requirements to salvation. And he says any attempt to skate in around it is robbery and will fail. That's not limiting God to time, that's you playing philosophy games and trying to reason out what seams right to you. Hope you like high heat.

47,837 posted on 04/21/2003 1:39:28 PM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: Havoc; drstevej; ksen
No, dear friend, like I said, at Mary's conception she was saved. She never sinned at all. Please try to learn a thing or two about the Catholic faith sometime before you die. You might be surprised. Put down the comic books.

Impossible. One has to be flesh and have some clue to what they are agreeing in order to choose a master. It's as though you're asking a baby whether he wants a bicycle or a Harley Davidson for his sixteenth birthday while the kid is dividing into it's second cell.

How man-centerd can you possibly get? Do y'all out there agree with this stuff?

God can do whatever He wants to. You really should talk with the Calvinists a while. They have many good ideas. God is not sitting around waiting for us to decide that we want to follow Him.

You're trying to sell us on the notion that God can willy nilly forgive sin and remove a servant from their master with no repercussion. You are clueless. I will ask again. If God did it for Mary, why did we need Jesus. Why couldn't he have just done that for everyone instead of running the coy game.

Yes! God can "willy nilly" forgive sin. He is God.

Are you jealous that God didn't save you like Mary? I'd recommend you get over it. Not everyone gets to go in a limo, but as long as you get to your detination, you should not begrudge others.

God is not being "coy" by not submitting to your little theories. Rather, He is painting a masterpiece, using different colors and brushes. You would have Him use a power sprayer and beige cause it's more egalitarian.

SD

47,845 posted on 04/21/2003 1:47:17 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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