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Anti-Marian verses

Luke 11:27,28 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare these and the paps which thou has sucked.
but he said, Yea rather , blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Mat: 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

In other words He is not of Mary. She is not His mother genetically.

Mat 12:46-50 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3:31-35 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.
And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for the.
and he answered them, saying, who is my mother, or my brethren?
And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother and my sister, and mother.

Heb 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisdec.

Heb 7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Jesus has no mother spiritually and typically

Gal 4:22-31:
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Notice that there really is a mother of the church and it isn't Mary! Once again Mary is not even mentioned.

Misrepresented Mary Verses

I'll add these soon

46,713 posted on 04/14/2003 7:52:36 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: biblewonk
Didn't get enough replies over on the other thread? ;o)

And just how are these "anti-Mary?" Didn't she "hear the word of God, and keep it?"

What does Mt. 11:11 have to do with Mary? That whole chapter (from v. 2 on through at least 15) is discussing John.

In other words He is not of Mary. She is not His mother genetically.

Are you saying John is not of Mary or are you talking about Jesus? If Jesus, how can you say he was not of Mary? Yeah, he is of God, we know that. But he was born of Mary ... you can't deny that. I think you're digging a little bit to say that verse is "ant-Mary."

The passages where Jesus says, "Who is my mother and who are my brethren?" are not to "diss" his relatives, but to show that he calls all who do the will of the Father to be his family. Didn't Mary do the will of the Father?

Heb 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisdec.

And just what does this prove?

Heb 7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Isn't this referring to Melchizedek?

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Don't you have anything better than this, wonk? ;o)

46,715 posted on 04/14/2003 8:21:52 AM PDT by al_c
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Anti-Marian verses

Whatsamatta, you didn't start enough trouble on the Where Have All the FR Protestants Gone? thread? ;-)
46,716 posted on 04/14/2003 8:23:58 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a cult of one? UNITARJEWMIAN)
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To: biblewonk; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Invincibly Ignorant
For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

I'd love to have someone explain to me how Hagar is supposed to be the mother of Israel. Paul could not have more completely turned the meaning of the Torah on its head than he does here.

46,767 posted on 04/14/2003 8:44:13 PM PDT by malakhi (fundamentalist unitarian)
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To: biblewonk
Mat: 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

In other words He is not of Mary. She is not His mother genetically.

What a silly thing to say. What about this:

But when the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law (Galatians 4:4, RSV)

According to Scripture, Jesus is indeed born of woman. So there goes your theory, shot to hell.

SD

46,778 posted on 04/15/2003 6:32:52 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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