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To: malakhi; Invincibly Ignorant
Why hasn't he returned yet? And, under what circumstances (what things have to happen/ will be happening) do you believe he will return?

Oh Malakhi, Great questions to those who will not give the right answers!! HE HAS RETURNED! We would have to go into much study but if Christ said He would in His disciples lifetime (Matt 16:28), then He did!

Couple of points I made the other day. Firstly, from the perspective of comparing the 7,000 year redemptive plan along side of eternity the disciples were right, the messiah is coming dang soon. Secondly, we're told that its not for us to know when he'll come and restore at the athid lavo. From our favorite book.

A 7000 year redemptive cycle? God had the Israelites wander the wilderness for 40 years (for redemptive purposes) before bringing the younger generation in the promised land.
Likewise Christ returned after 40 years (AD 30-70) in AD 70. A 40 year redemptive time is Biblical. 7000 years is fictional.

Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

And they did not know. But they knew the generation (Matt 24:34) and they knew once the signs began to manifest themselves. (1 John, Jude). Nate
46,203 posted on 04/05/2003 7:03:42 AM PST by nate4one
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To: nate4one; malakhi
HE HAS RETURNED!

. No he hasn't, caz I'm still here :')

46,204 posted on 04/05/2003 10:56:47 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: nate4one; malakhi
Oh Malakhi, Great questions to those who will not give the right answers!! HE HAS RETURNED! We would have to go into much study but if Christ said He would in His disciples lifetime (Matt 16:28), then He did!

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Matthew 17:1-3 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.

Peter wrote about what he and James and John had witnessed that day on the mountain in 65AD, 5 years prior to what you call the return of Christ.

He told us, that he had already witnessed this event.

2 Peter 1:16-18 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.

Jesus told His disciples that some there would see Him coming in His glory.

Six days later, Peter James and John did.

Jesus told them not to tell anyone about it until after His resurrection.

Around 30 years later, Peter recorded what they had seen, right down to the voice of the Father saying "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased."

How much longer can you complicate this?

JH :-)

46,210 posted on 04/05/2003 11:45:12 AM PST by JHavard
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To: nate4one
Man I'm getting good at this. I didn't have to read the signature of post 46203. I read halfway thru the first paragraph and knew who it was. lol.
46,231 posted on 04/05/2003 6:32:32 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: nate4one
7000 years is fictional.

Says you.

46,232 posted on 04/05/2003 6:33:45 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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