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To: nate4one; malakhi
Oh Malakhi, Great questions to those who will not give the right answers!! HE HAS RETURNED! We would have to go into much study but if Christ said He would in His disciples lifetime (Matt 16:28), then He did!

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Matthew 17:1-3 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.

Peter wrote about what he and James and John had witnessed that day on the mountain in 65AD, 5 years prior to what you call the return of Christ.

He told us, that he had already witnessed this event.

2 Peter 1:16-18 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.

Jesus told His disciples that some there would see Him coming in His glory.

Six days later, Peter James and John did.

Jesus told them not to tell anyone about it until after His resurrection.

Around 30 years later, Peter recorded what they had seen, right down to the voice of the Father saying "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased."

How much longer can you complicate this?

JH :-)

46,210 posted on 04/05/2003 11:45:12 AM PST by JHavard
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To: JHavard
You took that completely out of context. In the SAME discourse in Matt 16, Jesus said that the Son of man would come with His fathers angels and render each man according to his works. (Paraphrase). Why would Christ speak to His disciples about living for Christ and the reward they would recieve for doing so and then change the subject for just 1 sentance???!! It does not follow even basic communication skills nor Christ's pattern. He always followed His prophecies (come with the angels) with a time statement (some here will not taste death). Matt 23 and 24 follow this SAME pattern.

Also Peter was just giving them confidence that his word was good in the matters of Christ and His return in glory, because he himself witnessed Christ's majesty on the mount.
He was using his presence on the mount as being proof he is a credible witness.
He, in no way, said that the transfiguration itself was a "parousia" of the kingdom.
YOU add that.
And to any coherent reader of Matt 16, the WHOLE CONTEXT, you are the one who complicates it.

You confuse a demonstration of Majesty with the coming of His kingdom? Doesn't it make more sense to say that the "reward" verse 27 is more consistant with a coming in the kingdom?

God Bless,
Nate
46,211 posted on 04/05/2003 12:01:26 PM PST by nate4one
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