The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)

Associated Press ^ | 3/24/01

[malakhi]

The Neverending Story
An ongoing debate on Scripture, Tradition, History and Interpretation.

Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams

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[malakhi]

Even the ADA doesn't provide an out for that.

The ADA mandates braille on the keypads of the drive up ATM. The ADA keeps the narcopleptic employed as truck drivers. You simply can not fire a man for the consequences of his alcohol addiction.

And $1M a year can buy an awful lot of legal representation.

[malakhi]

There was an article in the paper abotu some Hispanic groups complaining about the beer and alcohol industry and how they have made Cinqo de Mayo into some type of drinking holiday and not the noble, family event it once was.

Um, they don't need to celebrate it as a "drinking holiday" if they don't want to.

[trad_anglican]

He said he was not used to seeing so many trees.

That's different from saying Iowa is treeless. A good portion of my childhood was spent in northern Wisconsin, where trees are beautiful and plentiful. Iowa is a prairie state but not like Kansas or Nebraska. There are many forested areas in Iowa - but it's no northern Wisconsin or Pennsylvania.

[newgeezer]

Calling Iowa a "treeless prairie" is like saying Pennsylvania is a vast, stinking metropolis.

[SoothingDave]

OK, OK, OK. Relatively treeless. Or largely treeless. At a tree deficit?

SD

[SoothingDave]

Calling Iowa a "treeless prairie" is like saying Pennsylvania is a vast, stinking metropolis.

Nah, that's just Philthadelphia.

SD

[trad_anglican]

You simply can not fire a man for the consequences of his alcohol addiction.

Alcohol addiction is not necessarily a "disability" under the definition of the ADA. It can be in some cases and isn't in others. I would say in this case he will have difficulty demonstrating that his alcoholism prevented him from performing normal functions of daily life.

[SoothingDave]

Um, they don't need to celebrate it as a "drinking holiday" if they don't want to.

You forget our most cherished right not to be offended by anyone at any time.

(Unless of course, you are offended by homosexuals or abortion.)

SD

[trad_anglican]

At a tree deficit?

Arboretively impaired?

[SoothingDave]

I would say in this case he will have difficulty demonstrating that his alcoholism prevented him from performing normal functions of daily life.

This was the coach acting up at a party right? Well, I would sue the entertainment industry. After 30 years of movies and "Girls Gone Wild" it is entirely reasonable to expect that where there are college girls and beer, there would be some amount of sexual gratificatino to be had.

SD

[trad_anglican]

Well, I would sue the entertainment industry.

I think it was the Bob and Tom Productions' "Real Girls on Video going WHOOOOOO!" that did him in.

[malakhi]

I would say in this case he will have difficulty demonstrating that his alcoholism prevented him from performing normal functions of daily life.

Are you talking about his coaching or, ummmmm ... other "functions"? ;o)

[Quester]

Yes. That's the point. Satan believes that we are better off being like God than in letting God be God. Wasn't that the serpent's statement? That God knows if we eat that fruit that we will be like Him? Satan wants to free us from bondage to God by making us like Him. He thinks this is good.

Are you sure of this ? Are you sure it's not ... Satan thinks that it would be good if he was God ?

Why do you think that he would have any inclination to share any power with us ? Why do you think that Satan cares anything about us ? Isn't it true that he lured us into disobeying God, with full knowledge that we really couldn't be God ? After all, he had tried and had gotten kicked out of heaven. Isn't it like he just wanted to take us down with him ?

Do you think anyone sets out in life to live a life of evil?

Most naturally, ... not from birth.

But, ... do I believe that some people, at some point ... do decide to live a life which disdains God's moral constraints ? Yes.

In fact, I believe that some (and this might include Satan) do decide to live a life which is as much in opposition to God's will as possible.

[conservonator]

Still one of the nation's best-kept secrets.

Not if you keep blabbin'!

[conservonator]

Even the ADA doesn't provide an out for that.

I hope you're right.

[conservonator]

At a tree deficit?

You're confused. We don't suffer from a tree deficit, it only looks that way to those suffering form a paucity of corn:-)

[SoothingDave]

In fact, I believe that some (and this might include Satan) do decide to live a life which is as much in opposition to God's will as possible.

I don't know. I don't think so. As Paul indicated many people will do wrong when they know better, because of their weakness.

But people who do evil systematically, I believe, are not aware that they are doing wrong. Seriously, if you thought that implementing policies that would eliminate an entire race of people was "wrong" would you do such a thing?

SD

[newgeezer]

Not if you keep blabbin'!

Heh-heh... This crowd is so vehemently convinced of the rightness of their positions, I don't worry at all about any of them checking into it (let alone believing it). ;O) ;O)

[Quester]

Seriously, if you thought that implementing policies that would eliminate an entire race of people was "wrong" would you do such a thing?

As a christian ... no.

As a non-christian, striving to have my way, no matter what anyone else thought about it, probably.

Have you never seen a child (or an adult, for that matter) disobey authority, for the sole purpose of defying that authority ?

[SoothingDave]

We don't suffer from a tree deficit, it only looks that way to those suffering form a paucity of corn:-)

We grow enough to keep our bellies full from the 4th of July till Labor Day. We're a modest people.

SD