Posted on 03/30/2002 7:53:37 PM PST by malakhi
| Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams |
If we read this in context we see that Mary is just like any of us. Yeah that's it.
Next, Jesus said go not into the way of the Gentiles and do not visit any city of the Samaritans. Well, guess what Pete did after Christ Ascended - he went into Israelite communities and preached and left the Gentile Communities to Paul. And you know this from our prior discussions. Yes it's been discussed and referenced here before. Asia Minor was split between Peter and Paul. Paul oversaw the Gentile cities and Peter the Israelite settlements. Guess Pete didn't realize he was supposed to ignore his primary responsibility after Christ ascended - nor it seems did Paul. And if they didn't have such primary seperation of jurisdiction, why is it that Paul knows this and relates it well after Jesus had ascended. I mean, we all pretty much know the verse. But you seem to think "outta site, outta mind. Maybe no one will notice." Just like I'm sure everyone buys your jest about the website you then use to impugne when you submit it and then declare it is so. Another episode of Dave making things up. Who'd a guessed.
Can you tell me where Jesus retracted or retained the charge he gave the Apostles? Because Pete and Paul kept to what they were told, they just didn't refrain from teaching stragglers that weren't covered in their "calling". Pete was called to minister to the Israelites and Paul was called to minister to the Gentiles. Why can't you just accept the truth Dave? Why all the squirming? More later - no time.
If you think I ever said or implied this point it out to me. If you can find it I'll have to admit that I am crazy.
This is the end. If y'all can't understand this time, then I wipe off my sandals.
The bullshit is up to your eyeballs. Forget the sandals.
Or do you believe everyone is given the exact same talents, blessings, and role to play?
SD
Angels would work too!
Mack, you may not be able to see this on WebTV.
lol...you rock Al!
You state things. Others and I present other evidence that you ignore and then you claim victory.
This isn't normal behavior.
I'm not asking you anymore questions, cause you don't answer. You win. Whatever.
You would think explainaing that Jesus commissioned all of the Apostles to bring the Gospel to all of the nations would be addressed by you, but you don't. you just carry along like Jesus never said it. I'd love to get a peek at your edited Bible someday.
SD
But do you think at the time Jesus said this, He had any idea His mom would become more popular in the RC Church then He would be?
If he had know, would He have been a little more careful how He referred to her? :-)
Of course JESUS knew ... because JESUS knew our hearts ... that, often, we will value the creature over the Creator ... and the gift over the Giver.Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Yes. We agree. So why the fuss when we explore Mary's role?
Well, for one, ... we are attempting to evaluate the relationship between another of God's children and God, rather than concentrating on our own relationship with God.
Aside from what God has expressly revealed to us ... that relationship is really between God and Mary.
We, really, have more pressing issues to attend to.
Light a dozen or so candles, and give it a try.
Look who started to swear now. Reggie, I give up on you too. You only criticise and then disavow that you meant anythign by it. So forget it. If you can't take a position and defend it, forget about you.
Good Lord is there any NC out there who can be lucid? Am I the only Christian on the planet who can tell the difference between the mission the apostles carried out before Jesus' death and the one He commissiones afteeward?
SD
The RCC has been caught in many blatant lies. Why do you trust them? (Oh, I know. faith and morals.)
Is this being "dirty" on my part? Is my tongue nasty?
You have probably the nastiest tongue of any long timer on the Neverending.
Good Lord is there any NC out there who can be lucid? Am I the only Christian on the planet who can tell the difference between the mission the apostles carried out before Jesus' death and the one He commissiones afterward?
Who do you feel is not with you on this point ?
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