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To: ArGee
Sorry hos but I've read up on Roman history and know how crucifixions were supposed to be done. I've also learned that the fellow in charge of Jeruselem during the time of Christ was well known to be corrupt. The the VAST quantity of differences between how the Gnostic Gospels say Christ was crucified and how Roman law dictated the deed be done (which matches histories of the region at the time showing how they were done around Jeruselem) I'm not entirely convinced that the fellow put in the tomb was dead. And even if he was there's no form of proof that he rose up, could just have had his body stolen by nut jobs.
774 posted on 01/04/2002 1:19:56 PM PST by discostu
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To: discostu
Roman law dictated the deed be done (which matches histories of the region at the time showing how they were done around Jeruselem) I'm not entirely convinced that the fellow put in the tomb was dead. And even if he was there's no form of proof that he rose up, could just have had his body stolen by nut jobs

I'm not being argumentative, however why would the disciples spend the rest of their lives being imprisoned, tortured and eventually martyred if all they witnessed was a badly beaten and certainly sickly looking man who survived a crucifiction? Or why would these men give up their lives preaching that Christ rose from the dead if they indeed stole the body? Coming from a Jewish background they would know that they have no hope in this life or the life to come, with no riches and having to give up everything they knew. The martydom of the disciples is a well substantiated historical fact.

810 posted on 01/04/2002 5:43:24 PM PST by week 71
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To: discostu
I'm not entirely convinced that the fellow put in the tomb was dead.

IMO: You would have to work very hard to believe he had been put in the tomb alive.

And even if he was there's no form of proof that he rose up, could just have had his body stolen by nut jobs.

Indeed, that story was circulated. And, if it could have been proven it would have ended Christianity on the spot.

1 Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.
They would not have followed if they did not know that He had truly been raised.

Now, you and I both know that the religious leaders of that day really wanted to end the Nazarene sect. We both know that they had plenty of power and money to figure out what had really happened. They turned this power and money against a group of frightened fishermen from the wrong side of the tracks. One was so afraid that he ran off naked rather than be caught with Jesus.

Do you really think the fishermen fooled the leaders? Do you really think there's another explaination for the leaders' failure to produce the body other than the resurrection?

Shalom.

927 posted on 01/05/2002 1:09:17 PM PST by ArGee
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