[Catholic Caucus] Young Catholics aren’t ‘schismatic’ for preferring the Latin Mass to sappy Novus Ordo Masses

LifeSite News ^ | August 5, 2024 | Peter Stein

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[NorthMountain]

Marty Haugen and Dan Schutte found in the Gather Hymnal

GAAAaaaaaahhhhh!!!

I hated that drivel back in the 1970s when it was new.

[NorthMountain]

their aesthetic tastes differ from that of the Conciliar generations.

One should not assume that the "conciliar generations" liked the "Glory and Praise" songbook. Back in the 1970s when this wretched "music" was unleashed upon an innocent and unsuspecting world, I and other youngish men and teenage boys made (often bawdy) parodies of them. Doing such with traditional hymns was unthinkable. You just don't parody Tantum ergo ....

[Dr. Sivana]

I and other youngish men and teenage boys made (often bawdy) parodies of them.

I went to Christendom, and we did that sometimes. One I still remember:

God is in the son that arms the earth
God is in a mother giving birth
God is in the birds that sing
God is in Everything!

Added verses by J.B. and C.G.:
God is in a Far East Buddhist Temple
God is in a young teenager's pimple
God is in Hell, St. Augustine says so
God is in Edgar Allen Poe


One of the writers is now a monastery priest at Le Barroux

[Dr. Sivana]

That should be warms the earth, not “arms the earth”.

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Dr. Hittinger described the song as pure panentheism, which is, of course, a heresy.

[Alberta's Child]

I’ve heard it said that the Catholic Church may be the only institution where 70- and 80-year-olds tell people in their 20s to “get with the times.”

LOL. So true … and an optimistic harbinger of things to come in the Church.

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God is in Edgar Allen Poe

Nevermore.

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Marty Haugen is not and was never a Catholic.

Dan Schutte left the Jesuit Order in 1986 and his most famous song, “Here I am, Lord” is the anthem for the gay rights movement within the Catholic Church.

[Dr. Sivana]

Dan Schutte left the Jesuit Order in 1986 and his most famous song, “Here I am, Lord” is the anthem for the gay rights movement within the Catholic Church.

The author of "Why Catholics Can't Sing" points out that the refrain of "Here I am, Lord" (1979) has the same tune as the Brady Bunch theme.

Try it:
Here I am, Lord,
Is it I, Lord?
Who was bringing up three very lovely girls.

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The New Mass and all of the “art” and “music” that comes from it is so faggy.

[NorthMountain]

And then there’s David “Pedo” Haas ...

[NorthMountain]

A huge fraction of the Haugen/Haas/Schutte/StLJ oeuvre is, musically, show tunes. Imagine the cast of some inane musical singing the thing then striking a pose as it comes to an end.

They’re worse than campfire songs ...

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A huge fraction of the Haugen/Haas/Schutte/StLJ oeuvre is, musically, show tunes.

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I have more respect for Bugs and his friends than for the Schutte/Haugen/Haas mafia ...

[Steve_Seattle]

There should or could be alternatives to the sappy new mass and the old Latin mass. I can imagine a mass in English that retains the dignity of the old Latin mass.

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I can imagine a mass in English that retains the dignity of the old Latin mass.

That's how the first novus ordo masses were originally.

No ad populum, no altar chicks, no Holy Communion in the paw, no lay readers, no eucharistic monsters, etc.

That's when the modernists invented and then invoked their "Spirit of VC II". And they've been doing so ever since.

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A Primer for a Tradition-Minded Celebration of the OF (Ordinay Form) Mass

[Campion]

Ad populum was there originally (in fact, it was there in some places well before the Novus Ordo) in places with freestanding altars. Lay readers were also there from the beginning, and (IIRC) from sometime before that.

(Recall that we didn't go straight from the 1962 TLM to the Novus Ordo; there were several transitional stages beginning in 1964. (Somewhere I have my First Communion missal from 1968; the 1968 Mass was basically the TLM, somewhat simplified, in English. The major change when the NO was introduced the next year was much more simplification / abbreviation, and 4 Eucharistic prayers instead of one.)

The rest of the stuff you mention are all later additions/innovations.