Posted on 07/14/2024 9:39:52 PM PDT by Morgana
this is not to embarrass anyone just the opposite to inform us and people of the most high God to enter his gate looking like people of God
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I never said He did albeit the garment He wore at His arrest was "woven without seam" which means it was quite valuable for the era.
But you stated as a FACT that He wore rags.
Prove it.
At my Parish, that poor sod need only have a chat with one of the Deacons, and he will get lots of help with his material problems generally.
Hmmmmm ... that's not my experience ...
Maybe a kilt instead.
Yeah, they're going for comedic effect now.
That picuture shows a beautiful place to hold a service!
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How did they dress in the early church? There’s nothing in the Bible that mentions it.
We learn only a little about the dress of the men in the church time. John the Baptist, Christ. Not much about women except for what they show us on shows.
Any other bible insights, Paul gave instructions to Corinthians about what they should or shouldn’t do about their head.
One assumes the rest of their bodies were covered..
1 Cor 11 is the place Paul mentions that men’s heads weren’t to be covered and women’s heads were to be covered.
When praying and prophesying.
Odds are pretty good that women today attending church probably aren’t in to that look.
They’d resemble some other cultures that don’t read Paul’s letters
… and there’s this:
“Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, when they see your respectful and pure conduct. Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God’s sight is very precious. For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands, as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. And you are her children, if you do good and do not fear anything that is frightening.”
1 Peter 3:1-6
Unless a person is, say, camping in primitive conditions, it is still possible to make the effort to bring along some nice clothes for church. I do it all the time when renting a cabin or staying in hotels and it really isn't that much trouble.
It may not fit the particular context you are speaking of, but the excuse, "At least they show up," really grinds on me. It's like they're doing God a gigantic favor by giving Him a measly hour out of their week.
IMHO the Catholic Church is dying, through their own fault. Used to be the church encouraged families and often had 3-4 generations attending. Now it is 90% old people. And when they die off the church will close.
The Catholic Church was the Church founded by Jesus himself and will never "die" until the Second Coming. Christ promised the gates of hell would not prevail against it, so if it did die he would be a liar or a deluded fool and he would not be worth following. The Church in any given location (including the United States) may die (many of the churches named in the New Testament are long gone) but the church as a whole will be here for the duration.
As a whole, all Christian bodies have seen a reduction in attendance; it is a societal thing that affects religion across the board. In many cases, however, it is regional. Where I live, and especially in my own parish (which is Novus Ordo but "conservative"), there are lots of young families every Sunday. Also, the Traditional Latin Mass, even though attempts are made to suppress it by the current Pope, is extremely popular with young people, especially those with young families.
“Like the SS blaming the butler police worse”
You actually used THAT to make your point?
There’s an instantly lost argument ::laughing::
Your foot issues aren’t my problem, nor is your legalism worn by me in my freedom.
But...would you like to wash my feet before church next Sunday?
I’m old enough to remember how people dressed for church years ago. Generally speaking, it was much dressier years ago. Women used to wear hats to church quite a bit & some of the men did too. Shirt & tie was common & suit coats also. Now I personally don’t generally wear a tie often any more, but I’m astonished at the sloppy clothes some wear, even to special events like funerals.
I have done washing of the feet on Holy Thursday as a ritual never for anyone too self disrespecting and un motivated to manage hygiene and self discipline in keeping with Jesus
My daughter goes to a Catholic School. I became friends with her principal. I remarked to him that the church was putting all recruiting on him. When I went to Catholic school in the 60’s the priest and nuns were heavily involved, I’m not seeing that now. In 3 different Catholic Schools my daughter has attended in the past 9 years, she never had a nun as a teacher. I had at least 4 nun teachers in my 4 years in Catholic schools.
More so, within 10 miles of me at least 2 Catholic Schools have closed that I know of. The church is losing its children.
See...SEE!...you just went from legalism, to absurd comparisons, to downright snottiness.
Because of your rudeness, do not post to me.
You’re not as holy and pure as you think you are missy
Take a hint. No one wants to see anyone dressed poorly and right now the call here is to give it a rest for church.
Take a hint
...for the second time...
DO NOT POST TO ME.
Personal insults are NOT permitted.
YOU’RE RUDE!
I’m sorry but I disagree. I believe that God will judge us for many things but not for the clothes we wear to church.
If a person has means to dress in fineries and strolls right through the door, and another is poor, do they get rejected from walking in the house of their Lord? If that’s the case, then that is not the church I would attend
That's because where the Church is shrinking (mostly in the more liberal parts of the country and the world), there are less vocations to the priesthood and religious life. Where it is more conservative (like where I live and in places like Africa and parts of Asia and South America) vocations are stronger, especially where the TLM is still available. It's tempting to see the Church in terms of where we happen to live, but it is not the same everywhere. It's not great these days, but it is in no danger of dying out except in those places where it is allowed to do so.
More so, within 10 miles of me at least 2 Catholic Schools have closed that I know of. The church is losing its children.
That is to be expected in places where Catholics have become more liberal and stopped having children. I've never been much of a fan of Catholic schools myself. In the early years of this nation it was a necessity to counteract the influence of Protestant dominated public schools and to service poorer groups and communities that either could not afford private schools or had the time or education to teach the Faith to their children. In our time, it seems a little elitist since not everyone can afford to do send their kids there and there is no guarantee of getting an orthodox presentation of the Faith there anymore.
Our parish has recently moved away from a CCD based model of catechesis to one of placing the responsibility of parents to educate their own children in the Faith. As the Church teaches, it is the responsibility of parents to be the primary educators of their children and they cannot delegate that responsibility to anyone else.
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