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Did God Create Evil?
Rev310.net ^ | 5/7/24 | Steve Schmutzer

Posted on 05/22/2024 7:07:39 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

Part 1: An Apparent Contradiction of Logic

An unsettling question may arise when one ponders the implications of John 1:3 which states, “All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.”

That unsettling question is, “Did God create evil?”

Let’s step back a few paces to get a big-picture view. After each sequence of bringing the heavens and earth into existence in Genesis chapter 1, God considered His creative work to be good. Over and over, it is repeated, “And God saw that it was good.” The point is God makes good things.

This emphasis we see at the start of the Bible continues to be stressed later on. In 1 Timothy 4:4, the point is underscored again, “For everything created by God is good….” With these verses in perspective, it’s fair to say God wants us to understand He created all things, and all those things are good, proper, noble, pure, wonderful, virtuous, beautiful, lovely, and so on.

But in between the record of Genesis and that letter to Timothy, Jesus’ own words introduce a disquieting consideration. In Matthew 25:41, Jesus stated He prepared eternal fire for the devil and his fallen angels.

So, God created hell.

Whoa - wait a minute! Did God really create hell, and if He did, how does that fit into this whole notion that God creates good things? And, if hell is intended to be the final and unending consequence for those who “loved darkness rather than light” as John 3:19 says, then did God deliberately design the conditions by which humanity would receive this condemnation?

The first part of the first question is the easier portion to respond to. Of course, God created hell. He said so.

Nobody else could prepare it and nobody else could condemn Satan and his demonic hordes. Satan has one adversary infinitely more powerful than himself, and that is God. Nobody else can plan and prepare Satan’s final destruction.

Furthermore, Revelation 4:11 declares: “You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power; for you created all things, and by your will they exist and were created.” The point is God freely chooses to create when, how, and what He will.

He is not obligated to any outside force nor is He indebted to any situation that others may feel very passionate about. He simply considers His own Triune will, and if that means hell needs to be in the equation, then hell is what He will prepare.

There’s really no sense in debating the issue. Psalm 115:3 says: “But our God is in heaven; He does whatever He pleases.” The Bible says God will have His way. He is God, and nobody else is – case closed.

Hell’s existence fits squarely within the rights and will of God no matter that some may wish it didn’t or may choose to argue otherwise. Despite the habits of some, it’s foolish to argue with the truth.

But is hell a good thing? That’s basically the second part of the first question and it’s certainly the tougher portion to answer.

Our limitations of human understanding are confined to “….seeing as in a mirror dimly” (1 Cor. 13:12). We see hazy bits and pieces right now, but the clarity of the full view escapes us. As a result, we are challenged to see any virtues in the judgments of hell so long as we live on this earth and in these bodies.

It’s best to let the Bible speak plainly and accept what it says. In Rev. 16:5-7 and in Rev. 19:2, God’s actions against Tribulation sinners are called “….just and true,” and in Rev. 15:3 God’s pending judgments are described as “….great and marvelous.” What’s clear from these passages and from others like them is the most extreme of God’s judgments are righteous and good. The faithful believer must therefore regard the terms of hell no differently than the Word of God chooses to see them.

Here’s an additional perspective which might help. God’s judgments are designed to destroy everything that has unrelentingly sought the destruction of mankind who is “....made in [God’s] image and likeness” (Gen. 1:26). Therefore, God’s judgments serve to remedy the corruption of His “good” creation.

His “just, true, great, and marvelous” judgments introduce a climactic vindication; they eliminate the stains of sin from all of history. Seen in that light, hell presents a virtuous element. It is part of God’s victorious plan.

Let’s now come full circle to wrestle with the tough question that lies beneath all these matters: “Did God create evil?” It’s a question that has embattled dedicated Biblical scholars for a mighty long time, and passionate and polarizing opinions persist in response to it.

At first blush, it seems both rational and defensible that if God created all things, then evil must have been one of those things. After all, John 1:3 is pretty cut and dried - nothing exists apart from God’s intentions.

The proper assumption is God created everything, and nothing else was necessary for that to occur. This is the Biblical creatio ex nihilo doctrine which means “creation out of nothing.” Any other view than this suggests God is somehow insufficient.

While it adheres to responsible Biblical interpretation, one of the challenges of the creatio ex nihilo position is it provokes a degree of unrest when it’s placed alongside other plainly stated Biblical doctrines. Tensions may arise as other truths concerning God are given equal consideration.

A small sampling of some of these truths might look something like this:

First, God is timeless, unlike everything else. God exists now as He always has and as He always will (Gen. 1:1; 2 Tim. 1:9; Jude 25, Rev. 1:8). Second, because God is God, He has certain qualities that nobody else has. Among other things He is omnipotent (Job 42:2; Ps. 33:6; John 19:11), omniscient (Ps. 147:5; Isa. 55:9; Job 28:24; Matt. 10:30), and omnibenevolent (Ps. 19:7; John 3:16; Rom. 5:8).

Let’s take a fresh look at this. Let’s try to put it all in the blender and see what comes out.

With God’s omnibenevolent nature in the equation, it would seem He’d want to prevent all forms of evil. And His omniscience means He knows every way evil could possibly find expression. Finally, because He’s omnipotent, He has the power to prevent all forms of evil from even coming into existence at all.

Hmm. Well, that’s very interesting.

Let’s tighten that up a bit. A God who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, who can prevent that evil from coming into existence, and who by His nature would want to do so, would therefore prevent any possible entry of that evil.

Uhhhh,….er, um.…

Okay, let’s be blunt. If an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent God really exists, then evil should not.

Ouch!

Are you feeling uncomfortable now? The fact remains that evil does exist. Furthermore, God is every bit the omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient being the Bible clearly states Him to be. Herein lies an apparent contradiction of logic.

In the next part of this article, we’ll look at how we may reconcile this situation by looking to the full counsel of the Word of God. This is always the right way to engage in responsible interpretation.

In that process, we will see that tensions in our theology keep us faithful.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: biblestudy; evil; getajob; god; hell; joindu; nondonor; originsofevil; tightwad
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

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21 posted on 05/22/2024 8:05:29 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Did God create evil?

No.


22 posted on 05/22/2024 8:16:22 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

1 John 1:5: GOD is light, and in him 5here is no darkness at all.”


23 posted on 05/22/2024 8:25:25 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Scrambler Bob; All

This is a much misunderstood verse. The Hebrew word is calamity. Evil o4ginated with the pride of Satan. Where Satan got this Pride, we are not sure, but it is probably GOD’S plan to make Mankind. Evil originated in the heart of Ha Satan.


24 posted on 05/22/2024 8:33:38 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Did God Create Evil?


NO, HE DID NOT.

What He did do...:

He gave US A FREE WILL. He did not CREATE EVIL, MAN did.


25 posted on 05/22/2024 8:57:39 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I always believed that things like Hell and evil are the results of the absence of God


26 posted on 05/22/2024 9:08:54 PM PDT by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pedge To Each Other, Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

For goodness sake, people: read Augustine. Confessions. It’s all there, spelled out in ragged, emotional detail at the end of the 4th century A.D.


27 posted on 05/23/2024 12:35:23 AM PDT by Remole
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

A short postulation:
“God knew that his creation, including every onee of his angels, would at some time, choose their own destiny, with or without him. Therefore, to say no to him, for whatever reason, was to be considered mutiny, and would harvest punishment, ergo hell.”

“Y’all are with me, or agin’ me.”


28 posted on 05/23/2024 12:42:50 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

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29 posted on 05/23/2024 2:42:47 AM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: rdcbn1

correct


30 posted on 05/23/2024 2:55:55 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Yes beyond any doubt God created evil. It says so in the Bible


31 posted on 05/23/2024 4:52:25 AM PDT by stockpirate (A group of baboons is referred to as a "Congress" of baboons.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Yup 3xactly Bob. As unsaved people, we were once hostile to God, but he loved us so much he didn’t give up on us and kept after us knowing one day we would be justified by the blood of the Lamb, sins forgotten in regards to any condemnation for them.

It amazes me that he chose me.


32 posted on 05/23/2024 6:56:04 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

https://m.soundcloud.com/jim-bancroft-559886960/this-is-the-message-i-give-the-inmates

Give this a listen.
This is the message that I give the inmates every Thursday night.But this particular recording was when I was sitting with a homeless guy in downtown greenville.
It’s the same message.


33 posted on 05/23/2024 7:12:31 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Yes, He did. I couldn’t accept that at first, but He says He did … in the Bible.

Here on FR, I once argued that He doesn’t do evil, but, again, He says He does … in the Bible. That, too, was hard for me to accept at first.

I guess it’s a matter of perspective and it’s like someone else said about how you define “evil”. For me, it’s hard to accept that God would do any of the many things I think of as being “evil”.

But, otoh, I am reminded that, just as His Love and Mercy are like a fathomless abyss, so, too, are His Wrath and Judgment, as it will be when this time of mercy and grace is over and His Day comes.

34 posted on 05/23/2024 8:05:23 AM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere. Onward through the fog …)
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To: Reno89519

Are you trying to say that an all powerful, all knowing God has no control over his abilities?

Uh .. no!

Be grateful that he Chooses when to use his powers or the universe wouldn’t survive!


35 posted on 05/23/2024 8:33:08 AM PDT by justme4now (Our Right's are God given and I don't need permission from politicians or courts to exercise them!)
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