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The False Security of the Born-Again Sect
The Daily Knight ^ | May 14, 2024 | David Martin

Posted on 05/16/2024 7:11:27 AM PDT by ebb tide

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1 posted on 05/16/2024 7:11:27 AM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 05/16/2024 7:11:55 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

The author should try loving people instead of attacking them.

Zealot attacking zealots.


3 posted on 05/16/2024 7:24:52 AM PDT by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind bweek.lows too much)
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To: ebb tide

“...not of works, lest any man boast”.


4 posted on 05/16/2024 7:27:34 AM PDT by Democrat = party of treason
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To: ebb tide

Fascinating and helpful, too. Thanks for posting!


5 posted on 05/16/2024 7:37:34 AM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere. Onward through the fog …)
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To: ebb tide

This guy doesn’t get out much, does he?


6 posted on 05/16/2024 7:39:25 AM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: ebb tide

The author states the Bible doesn’t mention ‘personal savior”. The Bible also doesn’t mention “Pope”. When he says “The Catholic church is the only true church”, doe she mean catholic, as in universal, or Roman Catholic. There’s so much wrong with the author’s premise, that the whole piece becomes meaningless.


7 posted on 05/16/2024 7:39:35 AM PDT by HonorInPa
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To: ebb tide

As for the false teachings of “penance”, the Bible says that “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness”. So I would much rather put my trust in Jesus Christ, who shed His blood and died in my place, than some religion that tells me that saying Hail Mary’s helps pay for sin.

Frankly, the very idea that this religion teaches about its Pope being next thing to Jesus Himself while the current Poop decrees all sorts of un Godly and un Holy goofiness should be enough for anyone with half a brain to take a REALLY hard look at what that religion says compared to what God says in the actual Bible. Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me.


8 posted on 05/16/2024 7:44:38 AM PDT by Democrat = party of treason
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To: ebb tide
The short version:

Beware presumption.

9 posted on 05/16/2024 7:46:22 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: Democrat = party of treason

Yep - so many heresies, so little bandwidth.


10 posted on 05/16/2024 7:47:28 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: HonorInPa

Well put.

The author evidently does not recognize the meaning of the name “Jesus,” or “Yeshua” in Hebrew.

The “Covenant Name” of “Yod Het’ Vav Het’” or “Jehovah” was given by Almighty God to Moses at the burning bush.

“Shua” is the Hebrew verb meaning “to rescue, to deliver, to save.”

“Yeshua” is a compound of JHVH in its short form “Yah” and the verb “shua.” Therefore, Jesus’ name literally and beautifully and powerfully means, “This One Is the Salvation Provided by Jehovah.”

A careful reading of I Corinthians 3 will show our beloved Jesus Christ to be the “master builder” (wise architect in Greek) on whom every effort and work must be built.

Sadly the Roman church has shifted its work off that foundation and continues to erect physical and spiritual edifices of an entirely different kind.


11 posted on 05/16/2024 7:57:37 AM PDT by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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To: ebb tide

“ “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
— John 5:24”


12 posted on 05/16/2024 8:02:12 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: ebb tide
Just a few observations.

The author repeatedly attacks the term born-again. The fact is that Jesus used that term when speaking with Nicodemus. The Bible doesn't use the term Trinity, yet Christian churches use it all the time to describe Father, Son & Holy Spirit.

Regarding baptism. Are we commanded in scripture to be baptized? Yes. Is it required in scripture for salvation? No. The author conflates these two understandings of baptism.

"Those who believe that baptism is required for salvation are quick to use 1 Peter 3:21 as a “proof text,” because it states “baptism now saves you.” Was Peter really saying that the act of being baptized is what saves us? If he were, he would be contradicting many other passages of Scripture that clearly show people being saved (as evidenced by their receiving the Holy Spirit) prior to being baptized or without being baptized at all. A good example of someone who was saved before being baptized is Cornelius and his household in Acts 10. We know that they were saved before being baptized because they had received the Holy Spirit, which is the evidence of salvation (Romans 8:9; Ephesians 1:13; 1 John 3:24). The evidence of their salvation was the reason Peter allowed them to be baptized. Countless passages of Scripture clearly teach that salvation comes when one believes in the gospel, at which time he or she is sealed “in Christ with the Holy Spirit of promise” (Ephesians 1:13). Thankfully, though, we don’t have to guess at what Peter means in this verse because he clarifies that for us with the phrase “not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience.” While Peter is connecting baptism with salvation, it is not the act of being baptized that he is referring to (not the removal of dirt from the flesh). Being immersed in water does nothing but wash away dirt. What Peter is referring to is what baptism represents, which is what saves us (an appeal to God for a good conscience through the resurrection of Jesus Christ). In other words, Peter is simply connecting baptism with belief. It is not the getting wet part that saves but the “appeal to God for a clean conscience” which is signified by baptism, that saves us. The appeal to God always comes first. First belief and repentance, then we are baptized to publicly identify ourselves with Christ." - re: https://www.gotquestions.org/baptism-1Peter-3-21.html

13 posted on 05/16/2024 8:03:35 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: ebb tide

Jesus loves you far more than the man-made religion of self-effort.

It is finished.

Jesus promises are the foundation of trust in Him.


14 posted on 05/16/2024 8:07:24 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: ebb tide
Born-Again zealots always make sure that Jesus Crucified is not on the Cross

An awful lot of people were crucified.

Only One was resurrected. That Resurrection is what we celebrate--not the crucifixion.

15 posted on 05/16/2024 8:08:07 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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Only One was resurrected. That Resurrection is what we celebrate--not the crucifixion.

I would disagree. Christians should celebrate Christ's life, death and resurrection. Without the cross, there is no salvation. He took our sins on Himself - on the cross. There is no propitiation for our sins without the cross. When I see Jesus on the cross, I see my redemption - I see my sins on His body nailed to the cross.

"Who has believed our message? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? 2 For He grew up before Him like a tender [a]shoot, And like a root out of parched ground; He has no stately form or majesty That we should look upon Him, Nor appearance that we should [b]be attracted to Him. 3 He was despised and forsaken of men, A man of [c]sorrows and acquainted with [d]grief; And like one from whom men hide their face He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. 4 Surely our [e]griefs He Himself bore, And our [f]sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, [g]Smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But He was [h]pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our [i]well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed. 6 All of us like sheep have gone astray, Each of us has turned to his own way; But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all To [j]fall on Him. 7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He did not open His mouth; Like a lamb that is led to slaughter, And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers, So He did not open His mouth. 8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away; And as for His generation, who considered That He was cut off out of the land of the [k]living For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due? 9 His grave was assigned with wicked men, Yet He was with a rich man in His death, Because He had done no violence, Nor was there any deceit in His mouth. 10 But the Lord was pleased To crush Him, [l]putting Him to grief; If [m]He would render Himself as a guilt offering, He will see His [n]offspring, He will prolong His days, And the [o]good pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand. 11 As a result of the [p]anguish of His soul, He will see [q]it and be satisfied; By His knowledge the Righteous One, My Servant, will justify the many, As He will bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great, And He will divide the booty with the strong; Because He poured out Himself to death, And was numbered with the transgressors; Yet He Himself bore the sin of many, And interceded for the transgressors." - Isaiah 53

16 posted on 05/16/2024 8:16:20 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: ebb tide

Born again is a thing. Once saved, always saved isn’t.


17 posted on 05/16/2024 8:16:37 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: ebb tide
Who needs Luther? Hebrews tells us Jesus Christ only suffered once for our sins…

1 Peter 3:18For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

Hebrews 9: 12Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. 13For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: 14How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Hebrews 9: 28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

18 posted on 05/16/2024 8:35:19 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: ebb tide

What a heaping pile.


19 posted on 05/16/2024 8:35:50 AM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: ebb tide

The Catholics are the ones who are deceived. God says not to do repetitive prayer. Yet they have their little beads they play with. He says not to call anyone father but god in heaven. Yet, Catholics call a man father and asks him for forgiveness instead of god.


20 posted on 05/16/2024 8:40:50 AM PDT by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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