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To: ebb tide
Born-Again zealots always make sure that Jesus Crucified is not on the Cross

An awful lot of people were crucified.

Only One was resurrected. That Resurrection is what we celebrate--not the crucifixion.

15 posted on 05/16/2024 8:08:07 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: ShadowAce
Only One was resurrected. That Resurrection is what we celebrate--not the crucifixion.

I would disagree. Christians should celebrate Christ's life, death and resurrection. Without the cross, there is no salvation. He took our sins on Himself - on the cross. There is no propitiation for our sins without the cross. When I see Jesus on the cross, I see my redemption - I see my sins on His body nailed to the cross.

"Who has believed our message? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? 2 For He grew up before Him like a tender [a]shoot, And like a root out of parched ground; He has no stately form or majesty That we should look upon Him, Nor appearance that we should [b]be attracted to Him. 3 He was despised and forsaken of men, A man of [c]sorrows and acquainted with [d]grief; And like one from whom men hide their face He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. 4 Surely our [e]griefs He Himself bore, And our [f]sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, [g]Smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But He was [h]pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our [i]well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed. 6 All of us like sheep have gone astray, Each of us has turned to his own way; But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all To [j]fall on Him. 7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He did not open His mouth; Like a lamb that is led to slaughter, And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers, So He did not open His mouth. 8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away; And as for His generation, who considered That He was cut off out of the land of the [k]living For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due? 9 His grave was assigned with wicked men, Yet He was with a rich man in His death, Because He had done no violence, Nor was there any deceit in His mouth. 10 But the Lord was pleased To crush Him, [l]putting Him to grief; If [m]He would render Himself as a guilt offering, He will see His [n]offspring, He will prolong His days, And the [o]good pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand. 11 As a result of the [p]anguish of His soul, He will see [q]it and be satisfied; By His knowledge the Righteous One, My Servant, will justify the many, As He will bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great, And He will divide the booty with the strong; Because He poured out Himself to death, And was numbered with the transgressors; Yet He Himself bore the sin of many, And interceded for the transgressors." - Isaiah 53

16 posted on 05/16/2024 8:16:20 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: ShadowAce
Born-Again zealots always make sure that Jesus Crucified is not on the Cross

SA: Only One was resurrected. That Resurrection is what we celebrate--not the crucifixion.

At the end of His Passion, Jesus cried *It is finished* and gave up the ghost.

He was then taken down and buried and rose again.

1 Corinthians 15:14-23 And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain. We are even found to be misrepresenting God, because we testified about God that he raised Christ, whom he did not raise if it is true that the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied.

But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ.

And Christ is not eternally hanging on the cross, perpetually dying. He rose and is now seated at the right hand of the Father.

He doesn't belong on the cross and keeping Him there denies His death and resurrection and the work of redemption that He said was finished. Keeping Him on the cross says that His atonement is not finished.

Also, suffering does not cleanse from sin and Jesus's suffering is not redemptive. His death/finished work, past tense, is and the proof of that is the resurrection.

100 posted on 05/17/2024 7:47:50 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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