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To: Cronos
2 Thes 2:15 “Hold fast to the teachings from us, whether by written letter (scripture) or by word of mouth (Tradition).”

A smokescreen interpretation. 2Peter 1:20,21 20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. 21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
Catholicism may indeed have started in some early years which proves nothing when it detours from the Word of God. Just one example is replacing the Sabbath (Gods chosen day of worship) to Sunday (at that time the pagan day of worship of the Sun). There are many other such examples of deviation.
A man made denomination will have man made oral traditions which are spurious.

499 posted on 05/27/2024 6:20:02 AM PDT by BipolarBob (it's easier to fool the people than to convince them they've been fooled.)
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To: BipolarBob
2 Peter 1:20,21 explicitly rejects sola scriptura
First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God (2 Pet. 1:20-21).

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies.

10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh[c] and despise authority.

In 2:10 he describes these false teachers as “despising authority,” and then, in 3:16, he tells us they “twist the scriptures to their own destruction.”

The context of Peter’s letter leaves no room to doubt that Peter was condemning the private interpretation of Scripture, explicitly rejecting sola scriptura

503 posted on 05/27/2024 6:28:25 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: BipolarBob
A man made denomination will have man made oral traditions which are spurious.

Man-made denominations are those created in the 19th century like the Seventh Day Adventists, various groups following the pre-tribulation rapture, the Jehovah's witnesses, Mormons, Unitarian Universalists and Christian scientists

504 posted on 05/27/2024 6:29:40 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: BipolarBob
As to worship on the Lord's Day, the FIRST day of the week

Sabbath remains on Saturday. As Christians we since the days of the Apostles have CELEBRATED the resurrection of the Lord on the Lord's Day - Sunday

>Matthew 28:1: "Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb."

Mark 16:2: "Very early in the morning, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen."

Acts 20:7: "Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight."

I Corinthians 16:2: "On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper that there be no collections when I come."

Remember Mark 2:27 says, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." and

"One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God," (Rom. 14:5-6).
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"Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— 17things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ." (Col. 2:16-17).
A festival is yearly. A new moon is monthly. A Sabbath is weekly. No one is to act as your judge in regard to this. The Sabbath is defined as the mere shadow of what is to come (Jesus), the reality is Jesus. Jesus is our Sabbath. This is in reference to Isaiah 1:13 13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.

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Besides "And on the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to depart the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight," (Acts 20:7).
as imadrmd1 wrote The people of Christ met originally in the evening pf the Roman midnight-to-midnight day of which the time before sundown was still Sabbath. To the Jew, the evening was the beginning of the sundown-to-sundown first day of the week.

"And upon the first dayof the weekσαββατων (sabbaton), when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight" (Acts 20:7 AV).

For at least 30 years after the resurrection/ascension of Jesus (Pentecost was on the first day of the week, likewise) the disciples met in the evening of the day of which the daylight was still Jewish Sabbath, thereby not violating Jewish sensitivities.

"Upon the first day of the weekσαββατων let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come" (1 Cor. 16:2 AV).

The Corinthians were commanded by Paul to meet on the first of the week and have their tithes ready to be gathered each week.

The whole week is a heptad, a bundle of seven, a week of days, a "sabbath" of days, wherein the last day for Jews was set aside for rest from work. But the evenin of that last day is the first day of a new sabbath of days, hence it is also a (new) sabbath.

If you are a sabbatarian, avvording to the law you musy stay at home, go no place, and do no woek. But also if you wish to thus come inder the Law, you must obey the law, all of it, without fail. And doing so will send you to Hades/Hell in it in any way.

You cannot be a Christian and be a sabbatarian.

505 posted on 05/27/2024 6:31:46 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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