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To: fidelis

You need to keep to the facts and stop lying.

Paul, Peter, and Jesus Himself taught the dispensations.

As did Daniel.

But you guys want to believe whatever you wish to believe.

Purgatory, Insane Papal doctrines on homosexuality, and other fairy dust....


54 posted on 04/11/2024 1:55:42 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
You need to keep to the facts and stop lying.

If I'm a liar, as you have repeatedly called me, then nothing I say will satisfy you or convince you. And I do not wish to waste my time replying to someone who insults me in an un-Christian manner by repeatedly calling me a liar.

I have merely expressed an alternate viewpoint as yours and instead of humbly acknowledging that others can differ with your opinions and interpretation, you angrily strike out and resort to name-calling. Indeed, the truth sounds like a lie to those who are not open to the truth. God bless you, and have a good day.

57 posted on 04/11/2024 2:06:48 PM PDT by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

How ironic that Catholics have a problem with theology they claim is not in Scripture in light of most Catholic theology and doctrine, some of what you mentioned here. Particularly purgatory.


60 posted on 04/11/2024 2:13:55 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; metmom; fidelis

Actually, War_criminal —> Paul, Peter and Jesus did not teach dispensationalISM as the followers of the 19th century pre-tribulation rapture believe it.

No Christian before the 1800s was a dispensationalist — all Christians since the apostolic age viewed the Church as the expanded Israel.

If Scripture can be read “plainly” and is for all people, why did it take eighteen hundred years for someone to figure out what it really means? In this claim dispensationalists resemble the Mormons, who believe that the truth was lost for eighteen centuries.


95 posted on 04/12/2024 6:36:33 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; metmom; fidelis

One of the weird results of Dispensationalist teaching is that the life and teaching of Jesus are made essentially irrelevant for modern man. It works like this: Jesus’ life was part of the Dispensation of Law. Now we’re in the Dispensation of the Church, so Jesus’ life and teachings aren’t for us.

This is completely false - non-Christian belief.

Dispensationalism is a 19th century modernist invention with no prior history - by studying both the ancient church and the “new” development, we cab see NO antecedents for dispensationalism.

Dispensationalism contradicts the age-old belief of the Church that Jesus’ life and teachings are for us here and now.

Dispensationalism is, by definition, a closing down and limiting of biblical interpretation. It is a system that can do nothing but pigeonhole the Bible into different time periods and finish there. As a result both of these invented beliefs are essentially dead.

All 24 Catholic Churches or Traditions, all 16 Eastern Orthodox Churches or Traditions, the Coptics, the old Reformers (Anglicans, Episcopalians, Lutherans, etc), none of them think that Jesus held back some key information for a couple of millennia.

For 18 centuries, all of the Liturgical Christian Traditions have believed that the fullness of Revelation took place during the times of Jesus.

However, Dispensationalism became necessary for the Christian Traditions that emerged in the 1800s–1900s because they were not connected to the previous Christian Traditions and had new theological concepts.


96 posted on 04/12/2024 6:43:26 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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