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Who Is the Israel of God in the New Covenant?
Prophecy Questions Blog ^ | March 18, 2024 | Charles Meek

Posted on 03/19/2024 5:45:28 PM PDT by grumpa

Summary. The Israel of God is no longer fleshly, natural Israel, but rather all believers in Jesus―along with a remnant of Godly believers of old. Jesus fulfilled all of the promises to Old Covenant Israel (Luke 1:67-79; 2 Corinthians 1:20). “Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel” (Romans 9:5-8). The church extends beyond natural Israel to include Gentiles (Luke 2:32; Acts 9:15; 11:1, 18; Romans 11:11-32; Galatians 3:6-9, 25-29). This is not “replacement theology, but rather “inclusion theology.” Here is a sampling of passages about this:

Galatians 6:14-16. In the context of the rest of Galatians, Paul refers to the “ISRAEL OF GOD” as those who walk according to the Spirit—by faith in Jesus Christ (and specifically not by works of the Jewish Old Covenant Law, including circumcision).

Galatians 4:21-31. Physical Jerusalem, that is, the old covenant, is cast out making way for the New Spiritual Jerusalem (“the Jerusalem above”)—the new children of the promise.

Hebrews 12:22-24. Christians of the first century had already arrived at the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem—through Jesus, the mediator of the new covenant.

Matthew 3:7-11. John the Baptist tells the Pharisees and Sadducees not to count on their physical descent. Indeed, they are about to be cut down in the wrath about to come (AD 70).

Matthew 21:18-19. Jesus curses the fig tree, an Old Testament symbol for Old Covenant Israel (Jeremiah 24; Hosea 9:10; Luke 13:6-9), and the fig tree withered away forever.

Matthew 21:33-45. Parable of the Tenants. Jesus tells the Jews that the kingdom is being taken away from them and given to another group, obviously the church.

Matthew 22:1-4. The Parable of the Wedding Feast. It was obviously the Jews who were invited to the wedding, but their refusal to accept Christ as Messiah would lead to their demise—“destroyed those murderers and burned their city.” (Matthew 23, the next chapter, details why the Jews were the object of Jesus’ wrath. Not only were they exceedingly sinful, but also refused to accept Him as Savior.)

John 1:12-13. The children of God are believers, and not by blood.

John 8:31-47. Jesus explains to the Jews of his day that they are not truly offspring of Abraham, but rather are offspring of the devil.

Romans 2:28-29. “For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not the letter.”

Romans 9:5-8. Paul taught that not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel (“FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHO ARE ISRAEL”), and not all are children of Abraham. It is not the children of the flesh (i.e. their ethnicity) who are children of God (cf. 2 Corinthians 5:16.)

Romans 11:5, 11-32. Branches (of Israel) were broken off and Gentiles grafted in by faith. Whoever accepted Christ, both Gentiles and a remnant of Jews are saved (11:5).

Galatians 3:6-9, 25-29. Heirs to the promise, i.e. the true sons of Abraham, comes from faith in Christ, not physical descent.

Ephesians 2:11-3:13. Gentiles are no longer aliens but are fellow citizens in a new dwelling place, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets (cf. Revelation 21:14).

Ephesians 2:15-16. Jews and Gentiles became “one new man in place of two,” thus “one body.”

Philippians 3:3. The church is the real “circumcision.” Circumcision is the special sign of God’s covenant with Abraham and Israel (Genesis 17:10, 13), so the Christian church has become God’s covenantal people.

Colossians 2:6-3:17. Paul explains in this passage that physical circumcision had been replaced by spiritual circumcision, thus spiritual Israel—believers being made spiritually alive IN CHRIST. (See also Philippians 3:3).

Hebrews 8:5-13. The Old Covenant was being replaced by a New Covenant as predicted in the Old Testament (Jeremiah 31:31-34; etc.)

James 1:1; 2:1. The twelve tribes of Israel had become believers in Christ.

1 Peter 2:4-10. The new chosen race is the Christian church (building motif).

Revelation 2:9; 3:9. There are those who say they are Jews, but are really are a “synagogue of Satan.”

Revelation 19:7, 21:2, 9-27. The New Jerusalem is the bride of Christ, the church—which is built on the foundation of the apostles (ref. Ephesians 2:20).

Conclusions. This is about the changing of the covenants. Israel’s covenant with God was contingent on obedience (Deuteronomy 28-32)! Throughout the Bible, Israel’s relationship with God is portrayed as a marriage (Isaiah 54:5; 62:4; Jeremiah 2:2; 3:14, 20; 31:31-34; Ezekiel 16:8, 32, 38; Hosea 2:2, 7, 16; Malachi 2:14). Whenever Israel was unfaithful, she is characterized as a harlot or adulterer (Deuteronomy 31:16-18; Isaiah 1:21; Jeremiah 2:20; 3:6-9; Ezekiel 6:8-9; 16:15, 26, 28; Hosea 1:2; 6:10; 9:1). The central theme of Revelation is a story of two women—the harlot Babylon who is judged/divorced (Revelation 17:1, 5, 15; 18:9, 21; 19:2) and God’s new bride the New Jerusalem (Revelation 19:7; 21:2, 9). The faithless harlot is apostate Old Covenant Israel. The new bride is the Christian church, the wife of the Lamb, the New Jerusalem (Revelation 3:12; 19:7; 21:2, 9-27). Compare to the Parable of the Wedding Feast in Matthew 22:1-14, as well as such passages as John 3:29; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:25-27.

The notion that Israel is separate from the church, and that Israel will re-emerge as pre-eminent among nations is not supported by the texts.


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To: Philsworld
Those who metaphorically stomp on Christ by willfully breaking God’s law, after what He did for us on the cross, will not be in heaven.

That seems to be the bible's teaching based on Hebrews 10:26 -

For if we sin willfully after having received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins... ASV

- but seems to go against the bible's teaching in other places...

Galatians 6:1  ESV
Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted.

 

 

 

Remember the audience to which each book was addressed.


 (Did GOD really say...?)


101 posted on 03/23/2024 4:52:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Philsworld
OSAS/OJAJ falsely believe they are saved at the microsecond of Grace and that NOTHING they do after, no continual, willful sins, great or small, will ever keep them out of heaven.

You seem to know just what the OSAS/OJAJ crowd 'believes', but manage to LEAVE OUT the biggy that they DO believe...


UNBELIEF!!

THIS, my FRiend, will keep a person out of Heaven.


Hebrews 3:12 King James Bible
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

102 posted on 03/23/2024 5:00:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Sorry, but YOU are the one who seems to possess this SECRET knowledge.

Perhaps you can SHOW us here on FR just WHERE Joseph alledgedly LEARNED these things.


What secret? And, there was nothing alleged about it. Joseph straight up knew that adultery was WICKED and a SIN AGAINST GOD. There’s only one way he would have known that.

My commandments, My statutes, My laws....

Microsecond of Grace OSAS/OJAJ will still deny that God’s laws apply to them.

Revelation 14:12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


103 posted on 03/23/2024 5:34:36 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Elsie

——>Remember the audience to which each book was addressed.

Both audiences were Christian converts. The message in Hebrews 10:26-31 applies to ALL Christians.

(Microsecond of Grace OSAS/OJAJ will still deny that God’s laws apply to them, because they’re from a different audience.)


104 posted on 03/23/2024 6:05:20 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Elsie

UNBELIEF!!
THIS, my FRiend, will keep a person out of Heaven.


So will this (FRiend):

Hebrews 10:
26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


105 posted on 03/23/2024 6:14:18 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Elsie

——>You seem to know just what the OSAS/OJAJ crowd ‘believes

Sure, after years of debate.


106 posted on 03/23/2024 6:40:01 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

Took you that long to squeeze the facts outta them?


107 posted on 03/23/2024 11:04:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Philsworld

I’ve had dealings with Elsie before. Just tell her before writing, there was oral tradition. Godly people knew what to do because they were told what and how to do things.


108 posted on 03/23/2024 6:15:37 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: Philsworld; Elsie
philsworld, Post #84: And yet, we STILL have this, written by Moses, also the author of the first 5 books of the Old Testament.

Ah, no. Job was the first book, although Moses wrote of the history of Creation in Genesis as directed by God. There were also other writings earlier than that of Moses which are referred to in our Bible canonical writings, but now non-existent, not preserved by God as Holy Scripture for us.

However, one of Job's acquaintances, Eliphaz, was a son of Esau, and the father of Teman, which puts Job's writing of his own experiences about three or four centuries before Moses' writings.

Just a minor point of correction to your narrative, philsworld.

(Sorry, this is an earlier observation, but remaining unsent until this moment, I believe.)

109 posted on 03/24/2024 3:57:32 PM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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To: Philsworld; Elsie; boatbums
philsworld, Post #84:OSAS/OJAJ folks just don’t want to own up to God’s law applying to them. They just stick their head in the sand and say they can’t figure it out for themselves. Too complicated. Not clear enough for them. Nope, God’s law doesn’t apply to them. Not now, not ever. God’s law is for the UNSAVED. LOL Elsie, can you believe someone would say that?

This is another "no," philsworld. Apparently you just can't be convinced that God/Jesus does all the saving, not that to be saved, a human born under God's condemnation must first be judicially pronounced "Not Guilty>" a pardon issued by the Mighty All-Poerful Judge based on the created human's total confidence alone that Jesus' propitiation in His Blood for all of one's sins completely satisfied all of God's righteous demands against that person, with nothing more to be paid, ever.

How can a Spirit-born human that hears the Spirit's voice through the Holy Scriptures be fully confident that the imputed Righteousness of His Son has been permanently conferred upon him or her?

Simply relying on God's Written Word affirms that covenant unarguably. From the canonical book that fully establishes the OSAS position:

Romans 6:3-4,14,21-22 (AV):

3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. . . .
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. . . .
21What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.  22But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 
If this gracious gift of standing deep in the Righteousness of His Son Jesus, which covers ALL of God's Blood-redeemed Spirit-born human progeny, whether or not their subsequent actions please Him, whether or not He cahstens or rewards, their positionis that they possess everlasting life, never to be rescinded.

Now, if it were interrupted in any way, or withdrawn, it would not be everlasting, would it, philsworld? And God would be a lying con-artist, like Satan.

To NOT believe in this would NOT be fully persuaded that God fulfills every promise He has made, eh? and without that entire, unreserved, uncompromising, ever-abiding persuasion, God The Father cannot and will not undertake the gracious gift of your salvation, will He? This is all apart from the law matters, for neither you nor I relying on the performance of the "old man" can ever satisfy the Father.

And that is, philsworld, if you haven't experienced OSAS living, you not only haven't it, nor have you the spiritual faculty to even discuss it, or so the scripture says through Paul in 1 Cor 2:11-15.

With the mind-set you have shown, you have not humility enough to know that you cannot ever earn salvation, but remain under the sentence of sin's terminal outcome.

Only a change of mind can save you, which is what the Greek term "repentance" means. Job. in the earliest book of the Bible, said it well, and was saved:

Job 42:1-7 (AV):

1Then Job answered the LORD, and said, 
2I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee. 
32Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not. 
4Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me. 
5I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee. 
6Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes. 
7And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. 
Job turned unto God in utter, complete repentance, knowing that he had in himself no righteousness like that of God.

You speak and counsel like Eliphaz, philsworld, who urged that Job could be righteous enough to please.

This is a warning, that so far, you do have yet another chance as it did for me, but that opportunity can run out, never to be given again.

110 posted on 03/24/2024 5:32:43 PM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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To: Philsworld; Elsie
Your misinterpretation. Never base a doctrine on a Scripture that leads off with the word "if." Those who are dead to sin and alive to God, the OSAS ones, are described in Romans 6:
"But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness" (Rom 6:17-18 AV).
Reading further, all these have everlasting eternal life, and communion with God through the Spirit which infuses into the born-anew saint, and suffuses through God and all His children. Can they lead a sinful lifestyle? 
"Whosoeversingular a human
isstands bornperfect tense, done once and completed
of God doth not
present tense, habitually as a way of lifecommit sin; for
hisGod's seedsperma, regenerative saving Word of God
remainethpresent tense, perpetually abides>
in himthe human:
and he the human cannot
present tense, constantly commit sin, because
hethe human
isstands bornperfect tense, completed action with ongoing consequences
ofek,from out of God. 
(1 John 3:9).
The answer is "no," that cannot happen for the one begotten of God's Spirit.
111 posted on 03/24/2024 6:40:39 PM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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To: chuckles
Godly people knew what to do because they were told what and how to do things.

Just like the seven churches in Asia that John wrote about in the end of the bible?

112 posted on 03/25/2024 4:13:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: chuckles
Just tell her before writing, there was oral tradition.

That has worked out well...


 

 

NIV Matthew 2:5
"In Bethlehem in Judea," they replied, "for this is what the prophet has written:

NIV Matthew 4:1-11
1. Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil.
2. After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.
3. The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread."
4. Jesus answered, "It is written: `Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.' "
5. Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple.
6. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "`He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.' "
7. Jesus answered him, "It is also written: `Do not put the Lord your God to the test.' "
8. Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
9. "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."
10. Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: `Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.' "
11. Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

NIV Matthew 11:10
This is the one about whom it is written: "`I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way before you.'

NIV Matthew 21:13
"It is written," he said to them, "`My house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it a `den of robbers.' "

NIV Matthew 26:24
The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him.

NIV Matthew 26:31
Then Jesus told them, "This very night you will all fall away on account of me, for it is written: "`I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.'

NIV Mark 7:6-7
6. He replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: "`These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
7. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'

NIV Mark 9:11-13
11. And they asked him, "Why do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?"
12. Jesus replied, "To be sure, Elijah does come first, and restores all things. Why then is it written that the Son of Man must suffer much and be rejected?
13. But I tell you, Elijah has come, and they have done to him everything they wished, just as it is written about him."

NIV Mark 11:17
And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written: "`My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations' ? But you have made it `a den of robbers.' "

NIV Mark 14:27
"You will all fall away," Jesus told them, "for it is written: "`I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered.'

NIV Luke 4:17-19
17. The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
18. "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed,
19. to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."

NIV Luke 7:27
This is the one about whom it is written: "`I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way before you.'

NIV Luke 10:26
"What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?"

NIV Luke 18:31-33
31. Jesus took the Twelve aside and told them, "We are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled.
32. He will be handed over to the Gentiles. They will mock him, insult him, spit on him, flog him and kill him.
33. On the third day he will rise again."

NIV Luke 20:17-18
17. Jesus looked directly at them and asked, "Then what is the meaning of that which is written: "`The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone ' ?
18. Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed."

NIV Luke 21:22
For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written.

NIV Luke 22:37
It is written: `And he was numbered with the transgressors' ; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment."

NIV Luke 24:44-47
44. He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms."
45. Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.
46. He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day,
47. and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

NIV John 2:17
His disciples remembered that it is written: "Zeal for your house will consume me."
 
NIV John 6:31
Our forefathers ate the manna in the desert; as it is written: `He gave them bread from heaven to eat.' "

NIV John 6:45
It is written in the Prophets: `They will all be taught by God.' Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me.

NIV John 12:14-16
14. Jesus found a young donkey and sat upon it, as it is written,
15. "Do not be afraid, O Daughter of Zion; see, your king is coming, seated on a donkey's colt."
16. At first his disciples did not understand all this. Only after Jesus was glorified did they realize that these things had been written about him and that they had done these things to him.

NIV John 15:25
But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: `They hated me without reason.'

NIV John 20:30-31
30. Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book.
31. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

NIV Acts 1:20
"For," said Peter, "it is written in the book of Psalms, "`May his place be deserted; let there be no one to dwell in it,' and, "`May another take his place of leadership.'

NIV Acts 7:42
But God turned away and gave them over to the worship of the heavenly bodies. This agrees with what is written in the book of the prophets: "`Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings forty years in the desert, O house of Israel?

NIV Acts 13:29
When they had carried out all that was written about him, they took him down from the tree and laid him in a tomb.

NIV Acts 13:32-33
32. "We tell you the good news: What God promised our fathers
33. he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm: "`You are my Son; today I have become your Father. '

NIV Acts 15:15-18
15. The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:
16. "`After this I will return and rebuild David's fallen tent. Its ruins I will rebuild, and I will restore it,
17. that the remnant of men may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who bear my name, says the Lord, who does these things'
18. that have been known for ages.

NIV Acts 23:5
Paul replied, "Brothers, I did not realize that he was the high priest; for it is written: `Do not speak evil about the ruler of your people.' "

NIV Acts 24:14
However, I admit that I worship the God of our fathers as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect. I believe everything that agrees with the Law and that is written in the Prophets,
and I have the same hope in God as these men, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.

NIV Romans 1:17
For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith."

NIV Romans 2:24
As it is written: "God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you."

NIV Romans 3:4
Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge."

NIV Romans 3:10-12
10. As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;
11. there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God.
12. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one."

NIV Romans 4:17
As it is written: "I have made you a father of many nations." He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed--the God who gives life to the dead and calls things that are not as though they were.

NIV Romans 4:23-24
23. The words "it was credited to him" were written not for him alone,
24. but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness--for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead.

NIV Romans 8:36
As it is written: "For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."

NIV Romans 9:13
Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

NIV Romans 9:33
As it is written: "See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."

NIV Romans 10:15
And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"

NIV Romans 11:7-10
7. What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not obtain, but the elect did. The others were hardened,
8. as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes so that they could not see and ears so that they could not hear, to this very day."
9. And David says: "May their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
10. May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see, and their backs be bent forever."

NIV Romans 11:26-27
26. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27. And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins."

NIV Romans 12:19
Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.

NIV Romans 14:11
It is written: "`As surely as I live,' says the Lord, `every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.'"

NIV Romans 15:3-4
3. For even Christ did not please himself but, as it is written: "The insults of those who insult you have fallen on me."
4. For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

NIV Romans 15:7-12
7. Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God.
8. For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God's truth, to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs
9. so that the Gentiles may glorify God for his mercy, as it is written: "Therefore I will praise you among the Gentiles; I will sing hymns to your name."
10. Again, it says, "Rejoice, O Gentiles, with his people."
11. And again, "Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles, and sing praises to him, all you peoples."
12. And again, Isaiah says, "The Root of Jesse will spring up, one who will arise to rule over the nations; the Gentiles will hope in him."

NIV Romans 15:21
Rather, as it is written: "Those who were not told about him will see, and those who have not heard will understand."

NIV 1 Corinthians 1:19
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."

NIV 1 Corinthians 1:31
Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord."

NIV 1 Corinthians 2:9
However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him" --

NIV 1 Corinthians 3:19-20
19. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness" ;
20. and again, "The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile."

NIV 1 Corinthians 4:6
Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.

NIV 1 Corinthians 9:9
For it is written in the Law of Moses: "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." Is it about oxen that God is concerned?

NIV 1 Corinthians 10:7
Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: "The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in pagan revelry."

NIV 1 Corinthians 10:11
These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come.

NIV 1 Corinthians 14:21
In the Law it is written: "Through men of strange tongues and through the lips of foreigners I will speak to this people, but even then they will not listen to me," says the Lord.

NIV 1 Corinthians 15:45
So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being" ; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

NIV 1 Corinthians 15:54
When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."

NIV 2 Corinthians 4:13-14
13. it is written: "I believed; therefore I have spoken." With that same spirit of faith we also believe and therefore speak,
14. because we know that the one who raised the Lord Jesus from the dead will also raise us with Jesus and present us with you in his presence.

NIV 2 Corinthians 8:15
as it is written: "He who gathered much did not have too much, and he who gathered little did not have too little."

NIV Galatians 3:10
All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."

NIV Galatians 3:13
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

NIV Galatians 4:22
For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.

NIV Galatians 4:27
For it is written: "Be glad, O barren woman, who bears no children; break forth and cry aloud, you who have no labor pains; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband."

NIV Hebrews 10:7
Then I said, `Here I am-- it is written about me in the scroll-- I have come to do your will, O God.'"

NIV 1 Peter 1:15-16
But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy."



And now; for the Believers in Christ who may have wondered how much FAITH to place upon the Apostles written words...
 
NIV Luke 1:1-4
1. Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us,
2. just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word.
3. Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus,
4. so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.
 
NIV 2 Corinthians 1:13-14
13. For we do not write you anything you cannot read or understand. And I hope that,
14. as you have understood us in part, you will come to understand fully that you can boast of us just as we will boast of you in the day of the Lord Jesus.

NIV 2 Peter 3:16
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

NIV 1 John 2:12-14
12. I write to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name.
13. I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write to you young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I write to you, dear children, because you have known the Father.
14. I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God lives in you, and you have overcome the evil one.

113 posted on 03/25/2024 4:17:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

https://chadjthiele.com/2012/06/09/lessons-learned-from-the-telephone-game/


114 posted on 03/25/2024 4:25:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

115 posted on 03/25/2024 4:32:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1; Elsie

——>Can they lead a sinful lifestyle?

Ask Ravi. Oops, he’s dead.


116 posted on 03/25/2024 4:53:31 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Elsie

Hey Elsie, when you open your bible and look at the first 5 books (the Torah), do you see the book of Job?


117 posted on 03/25/2024 5:03:28 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: imardmd1; Philsworld; Elsie; boatbums
The segment of my Post #111 to philsworld was supposed to contain superscripted grammatical explanations of the meaning of the English words of 1 John 3:9 of the KJV version. That part did not come out the way I wanted, because of a mistake in coding the HTML tags for it. So here is the corrected version of it:

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Whosoeversingular a human
isstands bornperfect tense, done once and completed
of God doth not present tense, habitually as a way of lifecommit sin; for
hisGod's seedsperma, regenerative saving Word of God
remainethpresent tense, perpetually abides
in himthe human:
and hethe human cannot
present tense, constantly commit sin, because
hethe human
isstands bornperfect tense, completed action with ongoing consequences
ofek,from out of God.
(1 John 3:9).

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Thank you for your patience of my poor pre-post copy editing.
118 posted on 03/25/2024 7:51:10 AM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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To: Elsie
This is important to add to the end of this note of yours:
1 John 4:6  We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. 
This is a clear test of who is born of the Spirit and whose stance is questionable.
119 posted on 03/25/2024 9:18:34 AM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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To: Philsworld

There are some through their ignorance who like to harp on Ravi Zacharias, hoping that will bolster one’s argument for legalism as a measure of spirituality.


120 posted on 03/25/2024 10:12:18 AM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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