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What About The Sabbath
The Reason For My Faith ^ | 3/3/24 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 03/03/2024 3:31:37 PM PST by OneVike

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To: OneVike

“Tell that to Paul, as he stated about meeting the first day of the week”

Paul met congregations at different times for different reasons, but it did not change the Sabbath day.


41 posted on 03/03/2024 5:01:10 PM PST by Wuli (ena)
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To: OneVike

“and Peter and James who never told the gentiles to obey it in their letter after the first Council in Jerusalem.”

They made no reference to it because it was not a matter they were talking about, and they certainly were not implying there was NOTHING else one need do.


42 posted on 03/03/2024 5:05:45 PM PST by Wuli (ena)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Salvation is not based on what day you keep, it is based on faith in Christ only.

I believe that as well. And how is this faith manifested? How does God measure faith? For that matter how does God measure sin? Is that not what the purpose of the Law is? The Law does not save but it points out sin. James 2:17 "Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works." James shows the relationship between faith and works, yet people don't want to do works.

Romans 3:31 "Do we then make void the Law through faith? God forbid, yea, we establish the Law." How many here think the Law is void because they have faith?

43 posted on 03/03/2024 5:14:45 PM PST by BipolarBob (I identify as a Christian Nationalist. Joe Biden hates me.)
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To: Wuli

The matter wasn’t about eating animals strangled neither

It was about circumcision, yet they mentioned all they concerned about.


44 posted on 03/03/2024 5:19:24 PM PST by OneVike ( Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Acts 18:4 And he (Paul) reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks (Gentiles).


45 posted on 03/03/2024 5:20:09 PM PST by BipolarBob (I identify as a Christian Nationalist. Joe Biden hates me.)
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To: metmom

Yes it was like an added one as I was finalizing it.

I do believe the HS reminded me of it. I could have added much more. Heck I could probably write a whole book, yet those who want to believe what they believe will never be convinced by fact.

They are like those Jesus said would not believe even if a dead man came back to life.


46 posted on 03/03/2024 5:22:37 PM PST by OneVike ( Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike; metmom
They are like those Jesus said would not believe even if a dead man came back to life.

Mentally I was applying that you and metmom. Well one day we will all find out if God made a mistake with the Ten Commandments instead of shortening it to nine. You do realize there is a copy of the Ten Commandments in Heaven, do you not? Wrote with the Finger of God on stone. Not to be confused with the ordinances and ceremonial laws by Moses that were wrote by him.

47 posted on 03/03/2024 5:30:45 PM PST by BipolarBob (I identify as a Christian Nationalist. Joe Biden hates me.)
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To: Arlis

Without the Sabbath, we lose the counting of time as God intended. The Passover Lamb was Jesus. Christians have turned the worship of Christ into a joke. Christmas has nothing to do with Christs birth, Easter is a celebration of Isthar, the goddess of fertility. Hell, Christ could not have died on Friday, and raised on Sunday. that is only about 40 hours. Simply put, we have been using the calendar of those who killed him, the Romans. We cannot know the true timeline until we follow the counting of time as God taught us. The day begins at sundown, and ends at the following sundown. The Months start on the first sighting of the new crescent moon. Only knowing the true calendar, can we know when and why the Holy Days the early Hebrews followed and what they represented.

Simply put, nearly all Christian churches are serving themselves, and leading people astray. The Mother church, RCC is the rotten tree from which did spring forth similar trees.

You cannot know the seasons, until you know where you are today.


48 posted on 03/03/2024 5:30:50 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: boatbums

SDA is wrong in teaching that. Salvation is from the sacrifice of Christ. Knowing the Holy days and commemorating them is a show of respect. Jesus said KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS, and he certainly was not talking about the food laws. The Commandments are the Law, the Torah is the commandments, not all the mumbo jumbo precedents included. The USSC has much in common with what the Jews in Christs time until even today, call the law. It is changed by what “scholars interpret it means”.


49 posted on 03/03/2024 5:35:09 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: OneVike

To be honest this is revisionism by those who want to choose the way of tradition over the way of scripture. Scripture nad HISTORY is clear. The Sabbath is the 7th day according to the bible. No amount of justification can do away with the fact that many early Christians CHOSE to disregard the sabbath of the bible in order to NOT look like they were Jews and thus avoid persecution by Rome. Sunday Christianity is built upon those who wanted to save their own skins and fit into the culture and society of the time. It’s the SAME way today. People and preachers violate the 4th commandment because they don’t want to be out of step with their friends and relatives. Preachers embrace lies because if they reject Sunday they lose their jobs.


50 posted on 03/03/2024 5:40:04 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: OneVike
And another thing: The novel theory you're proposing completely changes the words and intent of our Lord and Jesus in the book of Matthew:

Mat 12:1  At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat.  Mat 12:2  And when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, "Look, Your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!"  Mat 12:3  But He said to them, "Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him:  Mat 12:4  how he entered the house of God and ate the showbread which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests?  Mat 12:5  Or have you not read in the law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless?  Mat 12:6  Yet I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the temple.  Mat 12:7  But if you had known what this means, 'I DESIRE MERCY AND NOT SACRIFICE,' you would not have condemned the guiltless.  Mat 12:8  For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath." The intent of Jesus was to show that the Pharisee's had invented their own laws about the Sabbath. Jesus said he's the LORD that created the Sabbath and he's the one that knows how to observe it. It's much like today...people reject the clear words of the bible and the 4th commandment in order to make their own laws and rules about the Sabbath...essentially calling Jesus a liar and removing him as CREATOR of the Sabbath. It's disgusting.

51 posted on 03/03/2024 5:45:11 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: OneVike

Jesus broke the Sabbath by going around healing people.


52 posted on 03/03/2024 5:54:02 PM PST by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: roving

shhh, don’t tell the SDAs that


53 posted on 03/03/2024 5:57:19 PM PST by OneVike ( Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike
shhh, don’t tell the SDAs that

You really despise them, don't you?

54 posted on 03/03/2024 6:01:33 PM PST by BipolarBob (I identify as a Christian Nationalist. Joe Biden hates me.)
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To: OneVike

——>Nope it is not.

It certainly is.

Here is the NEW COVENANT:
Hebrews 10:
16This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Did the law/commandments include the 7th-day-Sabbath when Christ said this in Matthew 5? Of course it did.

Matthew 5:
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


55 posted on 03/03/2024 6:02:05 PM PST by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: roving
Jesus broke the Sabbath by going around healing people.

No, he did not. He broke pharsaical rules about the Sabbath and called them out on those rules and in no uncertain times. And now so called "Christians" side with the Pharisees and accuse our Lord and Savior of violating the commandments of God. Be very careful...

Mat_5:19  Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

56 posted on 03/03/2024 6:04:03 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Qwapisking

Yep, and that choice to keep Sunday, or any other day other than the Sabbath, or no day at all, has consequences. Those who break and teach others to do the same are going to be in BIG, BIG trouble (the worst kind). Christ said it.


57 posted on 03/03/2024 6:06:32 PM PST by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: BipolarBob

And what does God call someone that says they love Him but doesn’t keep His commandments? (rhymes with tire)


58 posted on 03/03/2024 6:08:52 PM PST by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: BipolarBob

No, I belive that Shabatt is Saturday, bit we are told not the lord over those who feel diiferently.


59 posted on 03/03/2024 6:09:29 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GFLOBALISM ! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: cowboyusa

Who is lording over another? If you see a drowning person and a nearby lifeboat, are you lording it over them by pointing out a chance for rescue? Jesus is the lifeboat and people here are making every excuse in the world and twisting every Scripture to avoid what God plainly says.


60 posted on 03/03/2024 6:13:01 PM PST by BipolarBob (I identify as a Christian Nationalist. Joe Biden hates me.)
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