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A Christmas REALITY - Mary Needed a Savior!
IFB ^ | 12/11/23

Posted on 12/11/2023 11:35:17 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman

Just a thought for this Christmas season. One of the greatest myths in all of Christendom is that Mary (Miriam) - the young Jewish girl of king David's line - who gave birth to the Savior of the world was sinless. I myself was taught this as a boy in the Catholic church and it wasn't till I was born again and started reading the Holy Scriptures for myself that I saw the true folly of such a myth. My dear friends, no greater lie could ever be told or fantasy ever believed! When this lie is embraced it derails the total ETERNAL movement of Almighty God and seeks to make the temporal, fallen and mortal the ETERNAL, RIGHTEOUS and DIVINE (Rom. 10:4). Mary herself testified that she rejoiced in Almighty God her Savior and one does not need a Savior if one is not a sinner (Rom. 3:23, 6:23, 10:2-4, Acts 4:12)! If we let the Holy Scriptures of Almighty God and Mary's own personal testimony speak to us then this great fantasy of many can NEVER stand. . Mary herself testified that she rejoiced in Almighty God her Savior and one does not need a Savior if one is not a sinner. . And Mary herself said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. For he hath regarded the low estate (to look with pity on her vile condition) of his handmaiden (slave): for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name. And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation (St. Luke 1:45-49).

Also the Holy Scriptures tell us that Mary offered a burnt offering and a sin offering for atonement after her purification (Leviticus 12:1-8). If Mary was not a fallen daughter fallen of Adam she would not have needed to offer an offering of sin.

And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord; (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord;) And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons (St. Luke 2:22-24).

My dear friends, if you are one who holds to the teaching of the Catholic church on Mary of Nazareth I would like to challenge you to believe Almighty God's Word and receive the biblical position of Mary and that of salvation (John 1:12, Acts 16:28-30, Romans 6:23, 10:2-4, 1 John 5:13). Mary the young maiden - by faith - trusted in Almighty God for her ETERNAL salvation as a young girl before her angelic visitation and little did she know that she would be the vessel of Almighty God to bring forth the perfect body for her Lamb and propitiation of her soul (John 1:29, John 3:16-17, 36, Rom. 10:2-4, 1 John 2:2, 4:10).

Mary the young maiden - by faith - trusted in Almighty God for her ETERNAL salvation as a young girl before her angelic visitation and little did she know that she would be the vessel of Almighty God to bring forth the perfect body for her Lamb and propitiation of her soul.

The first Christmas two thousand years ago - the young Jewish girl of the tribe of Judea - Mary; was trying to comprehend and take in the wonders of the last nine months (Matt. 1, Luke 2:24-80). Mary was highly favored above all women and was given the Divine assignment to prepare the body for the ETERNAL Spirit of the Son of Almighty God (Isa. 9:6-7, Micah 5:2, John 1:12, Heb. 10). The true servant's heart and faith of Mary are to be greatly commended and her exampled followed; but when individuals seek to change her testimony and her witness to fantastic fables they do her and her ETERNAL Savior a great disservice and dishonor.

Mary needed a Savior and believed as the Word of God clearly stated (Lev.). What about you? If Mary was here today she would point you to her God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Messiah to save your soul and give you ETERNAL LIFE (John 3:16-17). What will you do? Will you listen to Biblical Mary or traditional Mary?

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!!


TOPICS: Apologetics; Theology
KEYWORDS: marybible
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To: MurphsLaw; metmom; Elsie
WE KNOW the Incarnation story quite well- but if anyone thinks Joseph and Mary knew what was going on - IN THE MOMENT- of this most spectacular supernatural moment- theyre just kidding themselves. WE KNOW the story well- THEY.DID.NOT.

Well, actually, if you read the account in Luke one comes away with the belief Joseph and Mary did know what was going on....why?

Gabriel explained it to her. Once he explained what was going to happen she was onboard with it.

And she was so excited about this she hurried to see her relative Elizabeth.

Was Mary familiar with the passage in Isaiah? We don't know with 100% certainty, but we can ascertain she was familiar with the OT texts as she quoted from Psalms. And she had a knowledge of the history of Israel as she noted Abraham and how God spoke to him.

An angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph to tell him what was happening...and when he did Joseph did what he was told to do.

Now, the question becomes....did Joseph know the prophecy from Isaiah?

I'd say he did as Matthew notes he was a righteous man. Hebrew boys were required to learn scripture when they turned 13 IIRC. No doubt he would have learned of the coming Messiah. And Joseph kept her a virgin which was the fulfillment of prophecy. That was the requirement that Mary be a virgin prior to the birth of Christ.

Joseph kept her in that state until Jesus was born. After that they were free to consummate the marriage.

Now, the Roman Catholic will try and claim we don't have a record of them doing so. That is true...we don't. But we also don't have a record of many people in the NT having sex....but we know people did.

And Joseph and Mary did unless you're a Roman catholic who relies upon the discredited and rejected Protoevangelium of James instead of scripture.

441 posted on 12/14/2023 4:52:24 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Trump_Triumphant

I’m not angry. You’re projecting again.


442 posted on 12/14/2023 5:21:42 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Trump_Triumphant

Nonsense. The doctrinal differences are significant and long standing.

But such is hypocrisy, allowing for yourself what you deny for others.


443 posted on 12/14/2023 5:23:04 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: ealgeone
The closest Scripture comes to acknowledging that they consummated their marriage is this.

Luke 2:7 And she gave birth to her firstborn son and wrapped him in swaddling cloths and laid him in a manger, because there was no place for them in the inn.

FIRSTBORN, not "only".

And this....

Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 1:24-25 When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife, but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.

Not very far short of coming out and saying that they had sex.

But that would make it too hard to idolize and deify Mary now wouldn't it?

444 posted on 12/14/2023 5:34:27 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Trump_Triumphant; metmom
Both Churches agree 99% on doctrine. You compare that situation to 50,000 different denominations that disagree on important doctrines?

I'd say that disagreement over the pope is pretty substantial....way more than 1%. Especially if Unam Sanctam is understood by the Roman Catholic for what it really says.

445 posted on 12/14/2023 5:45:23 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

There are far less significant doctrinal differences between most Protestant denominations, if they even exist at all, than the differences between Rome and the Orthodox. Often, it’s a difference in ministry focus. Sometimes it’s issues like worship music style. Things that Paul refers to as *disputable matters* in Romans 14.

And the schism between the Roman rite and the Orthodox happened long before the Reformation.


446 posted on 12/14/2023 5:51:28 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom
All true.

And the schism between the Roman rite and the Orthodox happened long before the Reformation.

And that wasn't a minor disagreement over 1% of the issues either!

Talk about RC historical revisionism.

447 posted on 12/14/2023 5:53:38 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: MurphsLaw
NOT THE ONLY Advocate... (See Moses)...
 
You nneed to actually READ the Book your chosen religious organization put together so long ago.
 
 
 

1 Timothy 2:5 KJV

 
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

448 posted on 12/14/2023 6:15:40 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MurphsLaw
Why do you hate the Blessed Virgin's desire to be ONLY the Mother of Her Lord anyway?

And just HOW do you know what the BV's 'desire' is?

449 posted on 12/14/2023 6:17:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MurphsLaw
...Catholics are NOT bound by that limiting ideal.

They've sure proved this!

450 posted on 12/14/2023 6:18:00 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Trump_Triumphant

80,000

How many times do you need to be corrected?


451 posted on 12/14/2023 6:18:56 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Trump_Triumphant
He didn’t have the right to make up a new Church.

And just what church do you claim this to be?

452 posted on 12/14/2023 6:19:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Yeah, well with all that Rome has NOT dogmatically defined, which Catholics are free to interpret how they wish, there are 1.2 billion interpretations of Catholicism.

And I know from living and growing up in a highly Catholic community that no two Catholics agree on everything. There are a lot of strange interpretations and outright superstitions prevalent among Catholics.


453 posted on 12/14/2023 6:57:46 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom; Elsie

Very true....how many sects of RCs are just on FR?? We have one who seems to operate as his/her own independent church not agreeing with anyone.


454 posted on 12/14/2023 7:52:15 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Trump_Triumphant; metmom

There are not 50,000 Protestant denominations — or any other similar large number thrown out there. From the National Catholic Register:

“I regret to say that is not going to hap­pen here. There are not — repeat with me — there are not 33,000 Protes­tant denom­i­na­tions. There are not any­where close to it. It is a myth that has taken hold by force of rep­e­ti­tion, and it gets cited and recited by reflex; but it is based on a source that, even Catholics will have to con­cede, relies on too loose a def­i­n­i­tion of the word “denom­i­na­tion.””

The primary source for the claim says this about Catholics:

” And then the WCE some­how comes up with 242 Catholic denom­i­na­tions. That should be a big glar­ing red flag that it has been a bit — how shall we say? — free and loose with the word “denom­i­na­tion.””

https://www.ncregister.com/blog/we-need-to-stop-saying-that-there-are-33-000-protestant-denominations


455 posted on 12/14/2023 10:52:02 PM PST by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: Faith Presses On

Thank you.


456 posted on 12/14/2023 11:01:51 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Elsie

The Lutheran Church, established by Fr. Martin Luther in 1521.


457 posted on 12/15/2023 1:27:51 AM PST by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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To: ealgeone

All hail the Pope of Free Republic! When are you going to start issuing interdicts and excommunication?


458 posted on 12/15/2023 1:35:06 AM PST by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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To: ealgeone

The Theotokos, whom Eastern Christians sing a glorious chant to at every Liturgy.


459 posted on 12/15/2023 1:50:45 AM PST by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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To: metmom

You seem to be sometimes, but it’s hard to convey feelings when reading people on the Internet.


460 posted on 12/15/2023 1:56:27 AM PST by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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