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Speaker Johnson: Separation of church, state ‘a misnomer’
The Hill ^ | 11/14/23 | Lauren Sforza

Posted on 11/14/2023 4:06:15 PM PST by Texan4Life

“Separation of church and state … is a misnomer. People misunderstand it,” Johnson said on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” when asked about him praying on the House floor. “Of course, it comes from a phrase that was in a letter that Jefferson wrote is not in the Constitution.”

“And what he was explaining is they did not want the government to encroach upon the church, not that they didn’t want principles of faith to have influence on our public life. It’s exactly the opposite,” the Speaker added.

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TOPICS: Moral Issues; Prayer; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; atheism; church; communism; constitution; johnson; mikejohnson; separation; speakerjohnson; state
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The 1st Amendment is to keep Govt. out of the Church's Business, and it is NOT to keep the Church out of Govt.
1 posted on 11/14/2023 4:06:15 PM PST by Texan4Life
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To: Texan4Life
YES!!!!

Hitting the nail on the Brian Boitano.

2 posted on 11/14/2023 4:11:24 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Texan4Life

This guy is speaking a lot of truth. I hope he has good security.


3 posted on 11/14/2023 4:12:07 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Texan4Life

He was spot on at the rally today


4 posted on 11/14/2023 4:13:58 PM PST by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: bigbob

the democrats are not going to like it.


5 posted on 11/14/2023 4:14:02 PM PST by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: Texan4Life

“NOT to keep the Church out of Govt.”

I’m good with that as long as it is my Church.


6 posted on 11/14/2023 4:14:25 PM PST by Round Earther
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To: Texan4Life

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion” as in the Church of England.

“or prohibit the free exercise thereof” is the rest of the First Amendment regarding religion.

“Separation of church and state” is in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson it’s not in the Constitution.

But again Jefferson didn’t want the USA having that King linked State linked Church of England.

Those are the facts of the matter.

The rewrite of the First Amendment started with Justice Hugo Black in the 1947 “Everson” decision.

Black did not want state resources supporting Catholic schools.

In the 1920’s Black was involved in Alabama with the KKK.

The Klan was anti-Roman Catholic among other things.


7 posted on 11/14/2023 4:15:55 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: Texan4Life

Amen. Well said, Mr. Speaker.


8 posted on 11/14/2023 4:17:14 PM PST by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: Texan4Life

” a phrase that was in a letter that Jefferson wrote is not in the Constitution.” “And what he was explaining is they did not want the government to encroach upon the church, not that they didn’t want principles of faith to have influence on our public life. It’s exactly the opposite,” the Speaker added. “

The Founders were clear, they wanted the principles of faith as guidance in all affairs.

They were also adamant that no church or denomination have undue influence.


9 posted on 11/14/2023 4:17:24 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Texan4Life

This Speaker is not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

I hope this becomes contagious.


10 posted on 11/14/2023 4:21:05 PM PST by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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To: Nextrush

Without going back and reading it, just off the top of my head, I thought it said that the government could not establish a religion.


11 posted on 11/14/2023 4:21:26 PM PST by Smellin Salt
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To: Texan4Life

He is correct!

The First Amendment only limits one group of people; The Congress.

Read it:

Amendment I (1791)
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Individuals, states, and local governments are not limited. Congress is and Congressmen are not limited from having religious objects or expressing religious opinions. Cities, state governments, and Federal lands and buildings are not prohibited from having the Ten Commandments or a cross or a menorah or a crescent moon and star or manger scene. Prohibiting these are a misinterpretation of the First Amendment.

State and local governments could even specify or ban religions if their constituting documents don’t prohibit it.

Too many people have never read the Constitution and do not know that most of what the Federal Government is doing is not Constitutional.


12 posted on 11/14/2023 4:26:33 PM PST by StrictConstructionist
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To: bigbob

“I hope he has good security”

God


13 posted on 11/14/2023 4:27:59 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Smellin Salt

The quotation marks I used in that post splitting it into two separate sections add up to what the First Amendment actually says regarding religion.


14 posted on 11/14/2023 4:31:22 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: bigbob

RE: This guy is speaking a lot of truth. I hope he has good security.

If he became VP someday he then would be in the tradition of VP Johnson for Abraham Lincoln and VP Johnson for John F Kennedy.
Practice ducking.


15 posted on 11/14/2023 4:31:31 PM PST by frank ballenger (“My job is to inform, not to convince.” St. Bernadette Soubirous )
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To: Jim W N

Absolutely correct but what is the reference to Brian Boitano? Is he even alive?


16 posted on 11/14/2023 4:36:51 PM PST by Thank You Rush ( )
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To: Smellin Salt

That’s what it does say...How people have put a different interpretation on it all these years is beyond me. It’s exactly what the poster has posted...


17 posted on 11/14/2023 4:39:34 PM PST by Thank You Rush ( )
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To: Texan4Life

Exactly! I don’t want a theocracy and I don’t wish to see religion suppressed either.


18 posted on 11/14/2023 4:41:03 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Samurai_Jack

They never do.


19 posted on 11/14/2023 4:41:28 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Texan4Life

This needs to be repeated over and over.


20 posted on 11/14/2023 4:43:41 PM PST by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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