Posted on 06/20/2023 4:00:14 PM PDT by vespa300
PRACTICALLY everything that Protestants regard as es- sential or important they have received from the Catholic Church. They accepted Sunday rather than Saturday as the day for public worship after the Catholic Church made that change.
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It ain’t an observation bipolar one — vespa has stated on the other sabbath thread that he is a Seventh Day Adventist
Pure New Age nonsense?
The scriptures are Pure New Age nonsense?
Poor Ezekiel..
Who knew His instructions from the Sovereign would be Pure New Age nonsense...
In one bible verse.
In one smooth stone.
Satan’s game is over.
So is his version of Truth.
You can buy and sell it if you want. It took one bible verse to ruin Satan’s game. At least for me. Your mileage obviously varies.
But with one bible verse, and numbering days, like the Psalm implores (Teach us to number our days) , everything you ever thought was truth, is a counterfeit lie.
I expect the response..
It doesn’t change the Truth..
Between the end of the 19th century and first half of the 20th century, there was a broad scholarly consensus that the canon developed in three-stages, the Torah or Pentateuch was closed around 500 BCE, the books of the Prophets (nevi’im) in the third or fourth century, and the Writings (kethuvim) at the council of Javneh in 90 CE.
The Catholic Church i.e. the community of believers including Church fathers etc. are those that agreed on which books would be considered scripture from a Christian point of view.
Catholicism in particular gave the Western Christians a list of books considered scripture.
Just as calculus is based on Aryabhatta discovering the zero
No. I was forced into the Cooneyite religion. Fifty years ago a Grace Believer managed to break their legalistic shackles on me and I never looked back.
It was such a repressive group it drove my brother into atheism and my sister has no religious beliefs.
TIR — yes, the Protestant groups built on the Church fathers who built on Jewish prophets.
We all stand on top of giants.
It’s like someone trying to build calculus and arguing that 1+1 = 3
and that is what the Adventists are doing - literally in the way they say that everyone else - whether Protestant, Catholic or Orthodox - are going to heck as they have the “mark of the beast - Sunday worship”
As an aside - I remember reading somewhere about why the standard gauge for trains is the way it is - and the reason is that it was based on cart standard gauge.
and the reason for the cart standard gauge is that there were grooves in the road.
And the grooves were from Roman times when the chariots had a standardized gauge :)
I see the sabbath as a ceremonial law which was to separate the biblical Jews from their pagan neighbors. It was a shadow. Which is why Paul told them not to let people criticize them over sabbaths. Or food. Or Festivals.
>>>>and that is what the Adventists are doing - literally in the way they say that everyone else - whether Protestant, Catholic or Orthodox - are going to heck as they have the “mark of the beast - Sunday worship”>>>>
Mark of the beast is an attitude. And that’s intolerance. Look at his thread. Y’all united across all denominatinons to show intolerance for the Sabbath. total unity on common doctrine. Her “mark” of authority is Sunday. And y’all accept her mark. And y’all showed just how intolerant you are towards the Sabbath and how united you all are.
this should be a wake up call. God is calling you out of her. worship the creator....the Sabbath commemorates creation. The Sabbath is a key end time issue, because it’s about the law of God and who your authority is. It’s not about a day......it’s about who you worship.
Worship is the theme in both Daniel and Revelation. False worship and true Worship.
It’s deeper than the Sabbath. It’s about God’s law. For goodness....go deep for once. And sorry about this truth.....we teach Bible truth and let God deal with the consequences. Truth is never in the majority......it’s in the minority in the end. Anti Christ is a RELIGIOUS power. A counterfeit power.
Go deep for once...go spiritual. And stop going with the majority who are united against the Sabbath. “to the law and to the testimony if they speak not there is no light in them” Isaiah 8:20. It’s not that hard.
>>>I see the sabbath as a ceremonial law >>>>
How can the Sabbath be a ceremonial law when it was “made” at creation before sin? Do you people ever think? The sabbath was hallowed for man BEFORE SIN. It existed in God’s perfect creation. It doesn’t point to the cross. There was no sin when the Sabbath was “made” for man.
Ceremonial laws point to the cross and are done away with at the cross. God placed the Sabbath with lying and stealing and killing because the Sabbath reveals he is the authority. He makes the law because he is the creator.
The Sabbath was put in the ten commandments in the ark in stone. Not in a book by moses like the ceremonial laws. IN Stone by God with lying and stealing.
I don’t get you people......I really don’t.
The obligation of the sabbath was made during the Exodus just as the rest of the ceremonial laws.
Now this issue of the beast and the mark are ones where I tend to side with the adventists.
Both, rather obviously, and the poster at subject is a SDA who made the latter statement at subject here.
Don’t you feel good about yourself? Really superior feeling. Whatever denomination or church group he goes to is really beside the point that God Commanded us to keep the Sabbath in His Law. But if you don’t want to keep His law, well you’ll be joining Satan because he didn’t like Gods laws either. Then you’ll find out what being under (the condemnation) of the Law really is. Intentionally breaking Gods Law won’t be covered by Grace. Sorry.
Paraphrasing Henry Youngman, Take my Pope, please
Lighten up Francis.
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***The Sabbath was put in the ten commandments in the ark in stone.***
And what happened to the stone the Commandments were written on?
King James Bible Exodus 32:19.
And it came to pass, as soon as he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses’ anger waxed hot, and he cast the tables out of his hands, and brake them beneath the mount.
St Paul’s gospel to the Gentiles again shows how he was preaching Jeremiah 31:31.
2 Corinthians 3:3
For as much as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
Exactly. And it’s the same reason Gentiles are not required to physically rest on the Sabbath.
Show me where Abraham observed the sabbath? There was no command to observe until Exodus and then it was perpetual under the old covenant for the Jews.
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The command was specified only for the children of Israel - the offspring of Jacob.
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