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What You Need to Understand about the Unpardonable Sin
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 6/20 | Caley Jacob Meza

Posted on 06/19/2023 1:21:37 AM PDT by spirited irish

Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

So what exactly is blasphemy against the Spirit, what many call the unpardonable sin?

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Theology
KEYWORDS: blogpimpingsin; grace; holyspirit; sin
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To: spirited irish

Why not post the whole thing right here?


21 posted on 06/19/2023 5:54:08 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: Jonty30

There are a few parts of repentance:

Remorse with the heart, asking forgiveness with the tongue, work with the limbs and resolve not to repeat (the offense).

The last one is the most telling of the blasphemy. If a person asks forgiveness, and then repeats the act, they are not sincere in their prayer and are most times using God for an excuse to continue the sin. Probably the most disrespectful to using God as a crutch are homosexuals that declare themselves Christians asking forgiveness then repeating the act as it is shunned in most Bibles as the laying of same sex people as being with the other sex.

An example:

There are two verses from Leviticus that figure in the debates over the Bible and homosexuality. First of all Leviticus 18:22, which says:

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

And the second one is similar. It comes from Leviticus 20:13:

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.

wy69


22 posted on 06/19/2023 6:00:01 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: spirited irish

Or you can click here to read the whole original article.
https://corechristianity.com/resource-library/articles/what-you-need-to-understand-about-the-unpardonable-sin/

Why do you not post the whole article?


23 posted on 06/19/2023 6:17:07 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: spirited irish

Disagree here. But one cannot be dogmatic about this.

Considering the context of Jesus statement, I believe blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is attributing to Satan the very works of the Holy Spirt. This is what the Jewish leaders did.

IMHO........


24 posted on 06/19/2023 7:00:43 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: FamiliarFace

There are rules against publishing entire articles on some blogs, websites, and sub stacks. Not all adhere to this rule.


25 posted on 06/19/2023 7:07:14 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: FamiliarFace

It is also the case that PatriotandLiberty has a worldwide readership, many of them Christians. So P&L publishes texts and links or entire text where allowed in order that worldwide readers might know what is going on here. They know, especially the Christians, that if America finally falls, the world will as well.


26 posted on 06/19/2023 7:10:28 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: Arlis

Succinct and accurate, you are.

Despite a comment earlier in this thread that Jesus is no longer in the world and thus such blasphemy as He noted is impossible. Wrong. The blessed Holy Spirit is here and working through His remnant.

Attributing such work of the Spirit to Ha Satan is blasphemous. And if not disavowed, the consequence of a “reprobate mind” is unavoidable as is Sheol. Anyone who believes/trusts in Jesus and still struggles with sin has not committed the unpardonable sin. Still, the Lord would have us all be overcomers.

Shalom!


27 posted on 06/19/2023 7:21:49 AM PDT by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere and Their Most Intelligent Designer)
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To: spirited irish

You are the owner of the blog, are you not? If you are, then what you are doing is blog-pimping. That’s not the right way (Christian way) to use Jim Robinson’s website. IMHO.


28 posted on 06/19/2023 7:26:13 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: esopman

Amen & amen.


29 posted on 06/19/2023 7:37:49 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: FamiliarFace
Your conception of blog pimping is wrong. Blog pimping is “characterized by leaving comments on other blogs with no other intention than to publicize (and link back to) their own site.” For a good example and explanation of blog pimping see the post “How to Catch a Blog Pimp” with examples of blog pimping here: https://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/21/to-catch-a-blog-pimp/.

Placing text on one’s blog with a link back to the originating site is not blog pimping, if it is then Substacks, websites, and even Free Republic are guilty of blog pimping since they publish text and links. Are they guilty of blog pimping? Of course not, and neither is P&L despite that some Freepers are determined to make P&L out to be a blog pimp.

30 posted on 06/19/2023 8:57:28 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish

Ok, maybe click bait is more appropriate terminology? The P&L is paid for how many clicks it receives, correct?


31 posted on 06/19/2023 9:44:17 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: FamiliarFace
P&L is completely paid for by its owner. It asks for no donations or subscriptions. But that will not matter to you since in your mind a blog is automatically guilty of blog pimping. This narrow view of reality is shared by Leftists who believe that to be a conservative is to be automatically guilty of evil.

This is my final attempt to reason with you.

32 posted on 06/19/2023 10:36:44 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish

Fine with me.


33 posted on 06/19/2023 11:05:45 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: spirited irish

What You Need to Understand about the Unpardonable Sin


1) Don’t do it for starters

2) see point 1


34 posted on 06/19/2023 11:16:59 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: spirited irish

It is a good question with no quick and easy answer as I think Jesus intended. He wanted us to think.

Here is one commentary from John Gill, but after trying to understand it I am back to my prior two points.

Matthew 12:32

And whosoever speaketh a word against the son of man,....

By whom is meant, not any man, as Grotius thought, but the Lord Jesus Christ, so often called “the son of man”, on account of his human nature, in which he appeared in great meanness and obscurity. Now many might, through ignorance of him, thinking him to be a mere man, and taking up with common fame, speak evil of him, deny him to be the Messiah, reproach him for the meanness of his parentage and education, and for the freedom of his conversation with publicans and sinners; and do many things contrary to his name, as Saul, whilst a Pharisee did, and thought he ought to do; and yet be afterwards convinced of their mistakes, and be brought to a sense and acknowledgment of them, and obtain pardoning grace and mercy, as Saul did, though a blasphemer; and who is an instance of what is here promised,
it shall be forgiven him through the grace of God, the blood and mediation of Christ, under the application of the blessed Spirit.

But whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, in the sense before declared,

it shall not be forgiven him: not because the Holy Ghost is greater than Christ; or for want of efficacy in the blood of Christ; or because God cannot pardon it; but because such persons wilfully, maliciously, and obstinately oppose the Spirit of God, without whom there can be no application of pardon made; and remain in hardness of heart, are given up to a reprobate mind, and die in impenitence and unbelief, and so there is no forgiveness for them,

neither in this world, nor in the world to come;

that is; they shall never be forgiven,

see Mar_3:29. The distinction here used, does not refer to a common one among the Jews, of the Jewish state and the times of the Messiah; but to the present state of life, and that which will be after, or upon death: and it does not suppose there may be forgiveness of other sins, though not of this, in the other world; but strikes at a notion the Jews had, that there are some sins, which repentance and the day of atonement expiate in this life; but there are others, which repentance and the day of atonement do not expiate; and these a man’s death expiates, or makes atonement for (a). The form of confession used by sick persons is the following (b);

“I confess before thee, O Lord our God, and the God of our fathers, that my cure is in thy hands, and my death is in thy hands; if it be thy good pleasure, heal me with a perfect healing: but if I die, תהא מיתתי סליחה, “let my death be for the pardon”, forgiveness, and atonement of all the sins, iniquities, and transgressions, which I have sinned, acted perversely in, and transgressed before thee; and give me my portion in paradise, and justify me “in the world to come”, which is hidden for the righteous.’’

But the sin against the Holy Ghost is such, as is not forgiven, neither before, nor at, nor after death, nor by it: all sins that are forgiven, are forgiven in this world, and that perfectly and at once; and all that are forgiven in this world, there will be a manifestation and declaration of the pardon of them in another; but such sins as are not forgiven here, there will be no declaration of the pardon of them hereafter. In short, the sense is, that the sin against the Holy Ghost never has forgiveness; it is not pardoned now, and consequently there will be no declaration of the pardon of it hereafter.

The Jews use the phrase in the same sense (c); a certain sick man said to his son,

“give me water, and such certain food; but if not, I will not “forgive thee, neither in this world, nor in the world to come”.’’

That is, I will never forgive thee.

(a) T. Bab. Yoma, fol. 86. 1. (b) Seder Tephillot, fol. 333. 2. Ed. Basil. Vid. T. Bab. Beracot, fol. 60. 1. (c) Sepher Chasidim: num. 234.


35 posted on 06/19/2023 11:53:14 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Thank-you for participating in what is, as you said, a question with no quick, easy answers. He wanted us to think and many thinkers have in fact, come forward in this thread.


36 posted on 06/19/2023 12:16:34 PM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: ViLaLuz; spirited irish
Here we are; all the way to reply #36, and John 3:18 hasn't been posted yet:

John 3:18 NIV

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.


37 posted on 06/19/2023 7:58:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FamiliarFace

Free Republic raises money off of outside content posted on it but that’s OK isn’t it? I’m thankful for the links to content posted here.


38 posted on 06/19/2023 8:26:21 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Elsie

Thank you for posting it! Very good.


39 posted on 06/19/2023 8:27:23 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: spirited irish

BTTT

I wonder why Jesus didn’t teach in this more? Should be unpardonable sin is a big deal.


40 posted on 06/20/2023 4:28:32 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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