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Foul-mouthed Pope Francis abandons traditional teaching on absolution
American Thinker ^ | 01/19/2023 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 01/19/2023 9:59:45 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Pope Francis is just full of surprises. Word has now emerged that the Pope, using coarse language, advised Spanish seminarians that, even if the person making a confession is not penitent and does not intend to repent in the future, priests must grant that person absolution. By doing so, Francis departed from Catholic doctrine. More than that, he has just removed eternal punishment for any and all crimes and sins. As I said, full of surprises.

The Catholic Herald has the details:

Priests should grant absolution in the confessional even when the penitent has no intention to repent, the Pope has said in a speech which has shocked seminarians.

The Holy Father put aside a written speech, describing it as “boring”, and delivered an off-the-cuff address to seminarians from Barcelona, Spain, in which he frequently used foul language.

In his address, he ordered students for the priesthood “not to be clerical, to forgive everything”, adding that “if we see that there is no intention to repent, we must forgive all”.

“We can never deny absolution, because we become a vehicle for an evil, unjust, and moralistic judgment,” Francis reportedly told the seminarians, who were accompanied by the Auxiliary Bishop Javier Vilanova Pellisa of Barcelona.

Priests who deny penitents absolution are “delinquents”, the Pontiff said, according to the Church Militant website.

Did he really say that priests shouldn’t be vehicles for “moralistic judgment”? I thought the whole point was that priests existed to aid their parishioners in living a moral life consistent with Biblical teachings in order to prepare them for a deserved ascension to Heaven in the afterlife. Without that morality bit, the Church reverts to the paganism of placating gods who behave in random, usually immoral or amoral, fashion.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: absolution; catholic; popefrancis
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To: faucetman

A lot of us have spoken up and denounced him but the Church isn’t a democracy.

The man is obviously doing satan’s work and the way for us to fight that is PRAYER.

God allows us to suffer until the time which He alone knows is right to end that suffering then He steps in.

My power is the small strength of one human against tremendous evil but when I pray my small strength connects with the power of the Almighty.

We must pray unceasingly, which is one of the lessons that we’re being taught in our time.

Also, any good spiritual director knows the advice to give when a person is being personally attacked by evil: don’t stop praying.

Don’t stop praying because that is exactly what satan wants us to do.

Pray, pray, pray.

Pray for the Church.

Pray for the world.

Pray for the man who called himself Francis when no other pope would take the name of the outstanding saint from Assisi.

Pray for one another, people of all faiths, that we may be united against all evil in our time through the One who suffered and died for us.

Pray for strength and wisdom to do God’s will.

Pray, pray, pray.

Never stop.

Never give in to threats, rejection, ridicule, exhaustion, or outright attack.

Prayer is the single most powerful thing we can do and it is also our way to know the action we’re called to do.

pax et bonum


21 posted on 01/19/2023 11:00:08 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (God is good, He loves us, and He is always with us.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe demontia.


22 posted on 01/19/2023 11:01:24 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (God is good, He loves us, and He is always with us.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Imagining how well St. Padre Pio would have received this instruction.


23 posted on 01/19/2023 11:03:46 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: southernindymom

Who goes to confession without a resolve to repent? How could a priest know that the person won’t repent? Francis needs to give a few real world examples.


24 posted on 01/19/2023 11:04:50 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: Boogieman

“...lawfully selected.”

___________

False base premise.


25 posted on 01/19/2023 11:05:30 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Boogieman
So to reject him is to reject the Catholic church, and to reject salvation.

Absolutely not true.

But I’m not going to debate this here because the information is easily located and, also, there are many Catholics on FR who’ve explained that many, many times.

Peace be with you.

26 posted on 01/19/2023 11:05:37 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (God is good, He loves us, and He is always with us.)
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To: one guy in new jersey

+1


27 posted on 01/19/2023 11:05:57 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (God is good, He loves us, and He is always with us.)
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To: Ge0ffrey

Priests, acting in persona Christi, have adequate capacity to make this determination. Catholics do not doubt this.


28 posted on 01/19/2023 11:09:36 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey
Imagining how well St. Padre Pio would have received this instruction.

I think it would have given him immeasurable grief.

The world would be different if more of us could see the reality of the spiritual world as Padre Pio did.

29 posted on 01/19/2023 11:10:03 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (God is good, He loves us, and He is always with us.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, Francis is the first Soros pope.


30 posted on 01/19/2023 11:11:13 AM PST by chuckee ( )
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To: southernindymom

It appears that the Catholic Church is in lock-step with world leaders in the march to the end of civilization. Catholics need to take a close look at that bunch of cardinals who select popes. Something has rotted from the inside.


31 posted on 01/19/2023 11:12:49 AM PST by GingisK
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To: bigbob
Too bad the RCC doesn’t have a 25th amendment.

Oh, we do. The only one who can exercise it, however, is Almighty God. And He always does eventually.
32 posted on 01/19/2023 11:13:15 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: pax_et_bonum

It was as if the flesh was transparent to him, and he was able to peer directly at and into the soul. Such was his level of sanctity.


33 posted on 01/19/2023 11:13:49 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

Who determines if he was lawfully selected? The bishops? Or any individual Catholic who decides to judge for themselves?

Is the Catholic church now suddenly a “bottom-up” organization rather than a “top-down” one?


34 posted on 01/19/2023 11:14:07 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

A priest may not know if you’re truly repentant but God does.


35 posted on 01/19/2023 11:14:54 AM PST by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: pax_et_bonum

“Absolutely not true.

But I’m not going to debate this here...”

Then there’s no point in saying it, because I just dismiss arguments that people aren’t willing to defend.


36 posted on 01/19/2023 11:15:49 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

Fake pope


37 posted on 01/19/2023 11:16:13 AM PST by FES0844
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To: one guy in new jersey

Right.

It seems that it would have been unnerving to be around him but he was beloved.


38 posted on 01/19/2023 11:17:59 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (God is good, He loves us, and He is always with us.)
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To: Boogieman

The issue is the purported resignation of Benedict XVI.

It was invalid for at least one and possibly two reasons


39 posted on 01/19/2023 11:18:17 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: pax_et_bonum

Nobody could put anything past him in the confessional.


40 posted on 01/19/2023 11:19:15 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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