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Foul-mouthed Pope Francis abandons traditional teaching on absolution
American Thinker ^ | 01/19/2023 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 01/19/2023 9:59:45 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Pope Francis is just full of surprises. Word has now emerged that the Pope, using coarse language, advised Spanish seminarians that, even if the person making a confession is not penitent and does not intend to repent in the future, priests must grant that person absolution. By doing so, Francis departed from Catholic doctrine. More than that, he has just removed eternal punishment for any and all crimes and sins. As I said, full of surprises.

The Catholic Herald has the details:

Priests should grant absolution in the confessional even when the penitent has no intention to repent, the Pope has said in a speech which has shocked seminarians.

The Holy Father put aside a written speech, describing it as “boring”, and delivered an off-the-cuff address to seminarians from Barcelona, Spain, in which he frequently used foul language.

In his address, he ordered students for the priesthood “not to be clerical, to forgive everything”, adding that “if we see that there is no intention to repent, we must forgive all”.

“We can never deny absolution, because we become a vehicle for an evil, unjust, and moralistic judgment,” Francis reportedly told the seminarians, who were accompanied by the Auxiliary Bishop Javier Vilanova Pellisa of Barcelona.

Priests who deny penitents absolution are “delinquents”, the Pontiff said, according to the Church Militant website.

Did he really say that priests shouldn’t be vehicles for “moralistic judgment”? I thought the whole point was that priests existed to aid their parishioners in living a moral life consistent with Biblical teachings in order to prepare them for a deserved ascension to Heaven in the afterlife. Without that morality bit, the Church reverts to the paganism of placating gods who behave in random, usually immoral or amoral, fashion.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: absolution; catholic; popefrancis
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1 posted on 01/19/2023 9:59:45 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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According to Catholic Answers, absolution reflects the Church’s power to remove sin—including punishment in the afterlife—from a person’s moral roster:

Absolution (Ab = from; solvere = to free), is the remission of sin, or of the punishment due to sin, granted by the Church. (For remission of punishment due to sin, see Ecclesiastical Censures. Excommunication. Indulgences.) Absolution proper is that act of the priest whereby, in the Sacrament of Penance, he frees man from sin. It presupposes on the part of the penitent, contrition, confession, and promise at least of satisfaction; on the part of the minister, valid reception of the Order of Priesthood and jurisdiction, granted by competent authority, over the person receiving the sacrament.


2 posted on 01/19/2023 10:01:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow and I’m not even catholic!


3 posted on 01/19/2023 10:02:47 AM PST by southernindymom
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To: SeekAndFind

Benedict was the last pope. I don’t know what this is. Wicked for sure though.


4 posted on 01/19/2023 10:03:12 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: SeekAndFind

To begin with, any cleric offering “absolution” is commiting a sin - pretending to have spiritual ability they do not have.


5 posted on 01/19/2023 10:04:35 AM PST by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

6 posted on 01/19/2023 10:06:56 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: SeekAndFind

This Pope’s a Jack Chick plant.


7 posted on 01/19/2023 10:07:34 AM PST by aspasia
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To: SeekAndFind

Almost every single day, a new outrage. How long, O Lord?

Keep the Faith and stay close to God in prayer. This chaos will cease at some point.


8 posted on 01/19/2023 10:08:17 AM PST by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: SeekAndFind

Too bad the RCC doesn’t have a 25th amendment


9 posted on 01/19/2023 10:21:15 AM PST by bigbob (p)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Pope is a DOPE! AND Demonic. A son of satan himself.

Why don’t you Catholics DEMAND his resignation?

What will it take for you to speak up?

Is there ANYTHING he could do to get you to denounce him? ANYTHING?


10 posted on 01/19/2023 10:27:19 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: SeekAndFind

Somebody needs to wash his mouth out with soap again


11 posted on 01/19/2023 10:29:37 AM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

He is the False Pope.


12 posted on 01/19/2023 10:30:33 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: faucetman

I’m pretty much a CINO now. After being told I was influenced by Satan for being a traditional Catholic, that was enough for me.
My local parish Priest is awesome, but otherwise I’ve checked out.

This apostate Francis MUST GO! There was MAJOR dirty pool being played to instate this fraud!


13 posted on 01/19/2023 10:32:02 AM PST by bantam
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To: SeekAndFind

“We can never deny absolution, because we become a vehicle for an evil, unjust, and moralistic judgment”

So he’s essentially accusing God of being evil, unjust and moralistic.


14 posted on 01/19/2023 10:33:11 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: southernindymom

True, even though us lowly protestants don’t do the priestly absolution thing, we still recognize that there is no forgiveness without repentance.


15 posted on 01/19/2023 10:34:38 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: bigbob

Well, they can always hold a conclave and elect another pope and then we can have another period of “dueling popes”. It’s been a few centuries since they did that though.


16 posted on 01/19/2023 10:37:31 AM PST by Boogieman
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“Is there ANYTHING he could do to get you to denounce him? ANYTHING?”

The conundrum for the Catholic, I think, is that this pope, no matter what he does, was lawfully selected. And according to their doctrine, that makes him the lawful successor of Peter, and the representative and voice of God on this earth. So to reject him is to reject the Catholic church, and to reject salvation.

If you really believe that kind of thing, it’s going to be a pretty significant barrier to you speaking against him, no matter what you actually think of him or what he says.


17 posted on 01/19/2023 10:41:41 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

In fact, the Pope has abandoned Christ.


18 posted on 01/19/2023 10:45:30 AM PST by Quentin Quarantino
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To: bigbob

I’ve mentioned on other threads that there is no group at the Vatican who can force a reluctant Pope to step down if he has a form of dementia.

Not comforting.


19 posted on 01/19/2023 10:45:46 AM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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RE: I’ve mentioned on other threads that there is no group at the Vatican who can force a reluctant Pope to step down if he has a form of dementia.

I don’t think Pope Francis has dementia. Something else but not dementia.


20 posted on 01/19/2023 10:50:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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