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Is America at the End of the Road?
Jonathan Brentner ^ | 11/15/22 | Jonathan Brentner

Posted on 12/05/2022 7:17:08 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: patriot torch

“I’m curious how sda cult members of today view the Deity of Jesus, and the Trinity.”

Michael the Archangel.


501 posted on 12/11/2022 6:36:09 PM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: SouthernClaire

Exactly, that is what really made me think of the other two cults.


502 posted on 12/11/2022 6:37:12 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: patriot torch; MHGinTN

A huge problem I see is that people want to force the parts of the Bible that they don’t understand into a place it doesn’t belong, thereby introducing great error. In other words, they want to be right right then.

When we don’t understand, we need to pray God grant us understanding, and wait for His good timing. He grants understanding to those who ask it of Him.


503 posted on 12/11/2022 7:21:29 PM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: SouthernClaire

Amen, so right. Especially in such an age of apostacy.


504 posted on 12/11/2022 7:23:01 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: SouthernClaire
I think we can have a broad understanding of what is to come even though the time table is Gods undertaking. A lot of phony Pastors keep people engaged attempting to promote when , which actually God says we should not do for He alone will determine when things play out.

We do see things coming together but then we who have been watching have seen this happening for decades. And we've also seen God slow things down. I believe Trump's term was to do just that. He confused many foreign European leaders because they didn't know what he could or would do next so their plans were stalled......but gave the US a moment time to breath freely again.....while the enemies of this nation still move behind the scenes.

505 posted on 12/11/2022 7:32:31 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: caww

Excellent post, Caww.

“I believe Trump’s term was to do just that. He confused many foreign European leaders because they didn’t know what he could or would do next so their plans were stalled......but gave the US a moment time to breath freely again.....while the enemies of this nation still move behind the scenes.”

Watching President Trump, what always came to mind was: Psa_2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Tee hee hee!


506 posted on 12/11/2022 7:36:24 PM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: ShadowAce

——>Where’s David these days?

David repented of his sin (s).

God forgave him.

David died and was buried.

David is waiting in the grave until he is resurrected at Christ’s second coming, UNLESS he was one of those saints who came out of the graves at His resurrection. (Maybe) And I can only assume those saints were taken up to heaven.


507 posted on 12/11/2022 7:43:08 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: SouthernClaire
Yes indeed....

God knows how to use men of earth to achieve His plans - meanwhile our work is to continue and ‘watch’ .....

America has got to become weaker in order for European Leaders to mount up for the scenes down the road. though militarily we have representation worldwide - politically we will get weaker as we've seen under Biden.

508 posted on 12/11/2022 7:51:41 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: ShadowAce

Also, can you tell me why the PTR, and the SDA/EGW haters club, flat out lie about EGW barking and crawling? Why would professed Christians lie like that?

Why would members of that group, supposedly saints soon to be in heaven, lie and bear false witness against her like that?


509 posted on 12/11/2022 7:54:48 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: caww

I figure we’re gonna get blown (nuked) to smithereens. If not that then seriously reduced to eating bugs. America is in their way.

However, God has His plans also. So, we shall see.


510 posted on 12/11/2022 7:55:03 PM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: ShadowAce

Why would a professed PTR-believing Christian not admit that Christ calls his angels saints? Any ideas?


511 posted on 12/11/2022 8:03:30 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: patriot torch; MHGinTN; ShadowAce; SouthernClaire

Why do groups who hate God’s law, the SDA church, and especially Ellen G. White, purposely lie about what EGW said or did? Here’s an example of their lies:

“The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty.” -Ellen G. White (1903, ms 150, SDA Commentary V, p. 1129)

When in fact her full statement was this:

Equal with the Father, honored and adored by the angels, in our behalf Christ humbled Himself, and came to this earth to live a life of lowliness and poverty—to be a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. Yet the stamp of divinity was upon His humanity. . . .

There is no one who can explain the mystery of the incarnation of Christ. Yet we know that He came to this earth and lived as a man among men. The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty, yet Christ and the Father are one.—Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, vol. 5, p. 1129, bold added.

Why do these groups continually lie and bear false witness against EGW? Do they not understand that willful, unrepentant liars will not enter heaven?


512 posted on 12/11/2022 8:20:13 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: ShadowAce

Why do these groups willfully break God’s law and by example, teach others to do the same?


513 posted on 12/11/2022 8:22:21 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

Did EGW visit Jupiter or not, Phil?


514 posted on 12/11/2022 8:32:35 PM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: Philsworld

Ellen? Is that you?

Hillary Clinton is on the other line speaking with Elenor, can you hold please!

Feel free to soak as you wait.


515 posted on 12/11/2022 8:36:05 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: Philsworld

Hello again, Philsworld!

Glancing through this thread again, I can see that many of the posters in the thread seem to think that SDA's, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Mormons share many quite similar or overlapping beliefs, particularly regarding the Trinity, Jesus, and other paramaount doctrines.   However, in my very limited grasp of those three denominations, it is my understanding that their beliefs in those key areas are nothing alike -- they are all completely different from each other regarding those primary teachings.

As you are a knowledgable insider in one of those denominations, I would be interested in hearing your opinion on that.

(For anyone else here who may be interested in honestly looking into that question, below are some good places to start, to analyze the teachings in those and other areas for those three denominations, from within the organizations themselves.)

"Official Beliefs of the Seventh-day Adventist Church"

"What Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Believe?"

"Our Beliefs - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints"

516 posted on 12/11/2022 8:36:07 PM PST by Songcraft
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To: caww

“America has got to become weaker in order for European Leaders to mount up for the scenes down the road. though militarily we have representation worldwide - politically we will get weaker as we’ve seen under Biden.”


100% in agreement


517 posted on 12/11/2022 8:40:00 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: Songcraft

What’s your denomination, Songcraft?


518 posted on 12/11/2022 8:40:27 PM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: SouthernClaire

I'm not in a denomination.   What’s your denomination, Claire?

519 posted on 12/11/2022 8:44:50 PM PST by Songcraft
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To: Philsworld

Quote:

“Why do groups who hate God’s law,”

—— and you accuse others of bearing false witness?

I must have missed it where anyone on this thread stated “they hate God’s Law”

When you are unable to produce the claim, look in the mirror and you will see a liar!


520 posted on 12/11/2022 8:45:07 PM PST by patriot torch
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