Posted on 05/13/2022 6:01:41 PM PDT by marshmallow
What you do in your personal life is your business, unless you’re the leader of the largest Christian Apologetic group in the world, that is.
What if I were of the 144,000 of the SDA and doing it? Still going to heaven?
“What you do in your personal life is your business, unless you’re the leader of the largest Christian Apologetic group in the world, that is.”
Do you not think our personal conduct in our lives matters to God at all?
I don't see how it would if the person is OSAS. Why would it matter? It's all recorded, but doesn't apply to OSAS in the judgment, because you have already been judged at the moment of Grace (OSAS/OJAJ).
Unfortunately for you and the rest of your OSAS buddies, you're wrong.
"The doctrine and works of the Nicolaitans came forth from a wrong interpretation of the grace of God that was preached by the apostles. They misused the Grace of God and the liberty in Christ to fulfill their carnal (sexual) lusts and desires."
"They believed and said that a person is saved by grace and therefore IT DOESN'T MATTER how you live. By faith in Jesus Christ, the spirit of a person is saved, but since you are bound by the flesh, in which evil is present, you will always remain a sinner and always keep on sinning. You serve God through your spirit, but you keep serving your flesh and it’s lusts and desires during your life on earth."
OSAS is the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, WHICH GOD HATES.
MHGinTN preaches that doctrine every chance he gets (OSAS can't sin....well, their flesh can, but not their Spirit, therefore they can't sin and all are going to heaven....see you in the clouds, etc...) WRONG!
Eccl 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Cave Cave Deus Videt
——>What if I were of the 144,000 of the SDA and doing it? Still going to heaven?
Then you won’t be going to heaven, is my guess.
Sounds like you don’t have the slightest idea of who the 144,000 are.
“The 144,000 is an all-inclusive group of faithful followers who love Jesus and are obedient to His commandments (14:4, 5). They conquer the image of the beast, endure persecution (7:1-3; cf. 14:9-11; 13:15-18), stand victorious with Jesus Christ and sing the triumphant song of their experience with God (14:3). The number is therefore symbolic of God’s end-time universal church who make up spiritual Israel (7:4-8). They are the remnants who survive the shifting in Laodicea (3:14-22) and include those who respond to the loud cry of the third angel’s message when the image of the beast becomes law (15:2).”
https://record.adventistchurch.com/2017/11/01/144000-literal-or-symbolic/
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
The SDA clown now contradicts the Revelation of John in order to support the false religion murdering his soul. Keep giving this troll a forum upon which it can spew more of this bilge spittle, if you want to aid him in his satanically directed work. Don’t feed satan’s little blind dead soul trol, is all I can say at this point.
If you hate the law so much, what does that say about how you feel about the law giver?
For the record, no Christian hates the law sinced the Holy Spirit -who is by definition always fulfilling the law- is abiding in the newborn spirit of the Christian (1 John 3:9). That is a concept satan will not allow to be comprehended by the dead soul troll satan directs.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that for a while now. No truth has gotten through and I don’t believe any is wanted, MHG.
——>For the record, no Christian hates the law since the Holy Spirit -who is by definition always fulfilling the law- is abiding in the newborn spirit of the Christian (1 John 3:9).
Who is by definition always fulfilling the law? How was the Holy Spirit doing that while Ravi raped and committed adultery across much of the world? Is that fulfilling the law?
No, Ravi was BY DEFINITION, a Nicolaitan, as all OSAS are.
Ravi’s motto may have been “I can’t sin, so let’s party”
The law of God is a transcript of the character of God. Jesus came to reveal to men the character of His Father. He is therefore the law amplified and demonstrated. If men wish to order their lives in harmony with the law of God, they must look to Jesus and copy His life. The law may be briefly summarized in the following words, “be like God,” or “be like Jesus.” The transformation of men’s characters after the divine similitude is the great purpose of the plan of salvation. The law reveals the character of God and of Christ; the plan of salvation provides enabling grace for the attainment of every virtue
SDA Bible Commentary on 1 John 3:4
Who is by definition always fulfilling the law? How was the Holy Spirit doing that while Ravi raped and committed adultery across much of the world? Is that fulfilling the law?
A Nicolaitan would say that the flesh was sinning and they’re good to go (the Spirit can’t sin, so the WAGES of sin don’t apply to the OSAS)...in other words, “let’s party”
So, how exactly was the Holy Spirit fulfilling the law in Ravi’s case, as he raped and otherwise committed numerous acts of adultery?
Care to comment?
OSAS is the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, WHICH GOD HATES.
Epheisans 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace;The enmity was abolished here. There is a question as to whether the law was abolished too. Verse 16 mentions only the enmity. There is no mention of ceremonial law as pointed to in your post #3407, only the “law of commandments.” Let’s look at one of the types for evidence if the law was abolished or not.
Deut 9:17-20 And I took the two tables, and cast them out of my two hands, and brake them before your eyes. And I fell down before the LORD, as at the first, forty days and forty nights: I did neither eat bread, nor drink water, because of all your sins which ye sinned, in doing wickedly in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger. For I was afraid of the anger and hot displeasure, wherewith the LORD was wroth against you to destroy you. But the LORD hearkened unto me at that time also. And the LORD was very angry with Aaron to have destroyed him: and I prayed for Aaron also the same time.Moses, the lawgiver, was an advocate to go before God to plead for the people for mercy and grace. He did not try to excuse them.
——>There is no mention of ceremonial law as pointed to in your post #3407, only the “law of commandments.” Let’s look at one of the types for evidence if the law was abolished or not.
There certainly is. I posted the same text as you did (Eph 2:15) in #3416, in response to 3409, to Elsie. However, it seems you missed it, and the meaning as well.
Eph 2:15
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
The law of commandments CONTAINED IN THE ORDINANCES = the ceremonial/sacrificial law. That does NOT refer to the 10 commandments.
——>The first law of commandments that Moses brought down from the mountain was broken without ever being read by the people...The second set of tables contained a significant change.
First, God initially SPOKE them out loud to all. Then, after Moses broke the first tables of stone, God (preincarnate Jesus), told him to cut another set of two tables of stone and God would write THE SAME COMMANDMENTS as on the first set.
Exodus 34:
1And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.
Later, Moses read it to the Israelites.
Verse 32: And afterward all the children of Israel came nigh: and he gave them in commandment all that the LORD had spoken with him in mount Sinai.
The first set was EXACTLY the same as the second set (10 commandments). And, they are the ones that were placed in the Ark of the Covenant.
——>Moses, the lawgiver, was an advocate to go before God to plead for the people for mercy and grace. He did not try to excuse them.
No, the law was given THROUGH Moses. The Law Giver was preincarnate Jesus Christ.
——>The pure law written by God on tables made by God would have been destruction of the people but the second law was written on tables made by Moses.
That statement makes no sense at all. It was the same words, written by the same God. The fact that the second set of stone tables were hewn by Moses makes not one difference.
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